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AUS wrote:
Well, the published 120 star run is not exactly the image of optimization, it would probably obsolete it, wouldn't it?
That isn't a very good reason to make a *completely* arbitrary movie that would be obsoleted by a real run. This run is more of a playaround. A 120 Stars run wouldn't fit that category. The point is, as Baxter said, to be different from what there already is/will be to offer.
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Johannes wrote:
Better question is why it's not called the any% run.
[11:08:56 AM] Jeremiah !! ソニックパッカー: it actually doesnt even make sense to write "0 stars" or "0 stars" for that category
[11:09:00 AM] Jeremiah !! ソニックパッカー: its just an any%
[11:13:19 AM] Nahoc (ナホック): yes, but me and adelikat dicussed it
[11:13:21 AM] Nahoc (ナホック): and it's mainly to attract viewers
[11:13:23 AM] Nahoc (ナホック): ;D
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BrainStormer wrote:
Derakon wrote:
As for the strict categorization, I don't know that you can come up with a clean, concise category for this run. Who cares? It's awesome anyway.
Then why bother post for submission on TASvideos? A youtube encode would suffice w/ possibly a link to it in the SM64 thread
Because the site hosts entertaining tool-assisted speed runs, and judging by the feedback in this thread, it is an entertaining tool-assisted speed run.
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Kuwaga wrote:
Hm, actually this run uses something like high speed wallkicks in TTM, so now that I think of it, it should either be obsoleted by a 1 star HSWK run or rejected due to arbitrary goal selection. ;p
I kid. Arbitrary goals are fine with me if they produce interesting runs.
The wall kicks in TTM are actually gwk (glitch wall kicks), not hswk. However, hswk are noticeably used in the BBH star "Big Boo's Balcony," and elsewhere. We already knew this was a flaw in defining 70 Stars BLJless. This is why we pointed out that one of our goals was "no major skips."
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Warp wrote:
errror1 wrote:
this is a really well done run, but I don't think a 70 star run shows anything that a 120 star run doesn't already show.
There's one huge difference, though: The 120-star run is an hour longer. That's quite a lot to sit through. 40 minutes is still within barely bearable limits.
If you think time is the only huge difference, you're sadly mistaken. Also, sub 1:30 on a 120 Star is MUCH more than feasible.
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ALAKTORN wrote:
@sonicpacker: what about “Metal-Head Mario can Move” for example? I think it’s an old record, so I’m guessing the 70 stars run wouldn’t have gotten past it at the time it was made… then why was it not used?
Using the triple jump off the "!" box strat is relatively new for Metal-Head Mario Can Move. As you can see, Nahoc's WR for that star BLJless was uploaded in December. The 70 Star was far past HMC at that time.
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SmashManiac wrote:
First, it just collects 70 stars instead of 120, so the run feels incomplete.
That's because the minimum amount to beat the game without a major break (BLJing) is 70 stars. It's not some random number.
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But most importantly, I don't see the pertinence of a BLJless category, especially when I compare it to the currently-published 120 stars run which barely uses BLJ inside levels. They're way too similar.
Rikku's currently published 120 star run is a horrible comparison to what an optimized 120 star run of today would look like. I wouldn't use that as an example to support your "no" vote.
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As far as I know, BLJ is not a bug that destroys normal gameplay, so this run just feels like a step backwards for me.
Heh, you'd be surprised what it can destroy. Trust me.
liked bully the bullies, metal head mario can move, and five itty bitty secrets.
does this movie have no long jumps whatsoever?
EDIT: I take that back. I saw a long jump somewhere. Overall, great movie
Didn't you mean to post this in the run's discussion thread?
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ALAKTORN wrote:
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boct1584 wrote:
So if you die in the middle of a BLJ, you keep your momentum when you regain control? Interesting...
I think it's because of how Skelux edited the way you die out of that level. Notice Mario doesn't "fly out" in reverse. He instead just falls straight down.
wouldn’t you get the same when you die outside of the castle in SM64 then?
Well I looked into it and any kind of death in that level causes Mario to get backwards speed after he dies. I don't know exactly what's causing it, but I'm pretty sure now that it has to do with how Mario exits after dying.
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boct1584 wrote:
So if you die in the middle of a BLJ, you keep your momentum when you regain control? Interesting...
I think it's because of how Skelux edited the way you die out of that level. Notice Mario doesn't "fly out" in reverse. He instead just falls straight down.
