Posted: 9/1/2011 5:17 PM
Post subject: Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
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Ok so I stumbled upon this video. Link to video It wears [Tool-Assisted] in the title, and the rest of the title means "Dudley Combo Test". I've put this in the Windows forum, because I'm not sure it's possible to emulate Xbox 360 and PS3 games, let alone TAS them, and there's a PC version of this game. But the thing is, the combo seems possible to be played in real time. On the other hand, if you watch the input display on the left, the inputs are done really really fast. Especially the 5-6 last inputs, as they trigger his Ultra Combo. I'm not sure if it's done with Hourglass, with a TAS in-game hidden feature or with a macro keyboard. Do you think this is an actual TAS, and is it possible to use Hourglass with such a game?
Posted: 9/1/2011 5:20 PM
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it’s a real TAS, that input is humanly impossible I don’t know if it’s the same method, but error1 has a video tutorial of SFIV TASing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWni6eDfvF0
Posted: 9/1/2011 5:45 PM
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Hourglass isn't up for this kind of game yet, I'm pretty certain. But do remember that "TA" just means "tool-assisted", and there's any number of tools beyond just emulators. I'd guess that in this case the tool used is a programmable macro keyboard to send a certain sequence of inputs with sufficiently precise timing.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:35 PM
Post subject: Re: Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
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Mister Epic wrote:
I'm not sure it's possible to emulate Xbox 360 and PS3 games
Who said it's PC version? You can already do nifty things with PS3 and both Xbox 360, not to mention the beta PS3 emu edit: I watched the video, looks like a simple Sixaxis emulator with predefined series of input.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 11:47 PM
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So, in other words, it's a macro peripheral. In that case, it can be done on any platform, and it doesn't follow the rules here. I would totally be able to do such a thing with my Sidewinder X6 keyboard on the PC version I have.
Posted: 9/2/2011 7:51 AM
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Here are some useful links if you are interested: VERY EARLY PS3 emulator: http://code.google.com/p/rpcs3/ Sixaxis emulator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fsr4-UKQeY I think the easiest way is using Sixaxis emulator and a simple macro program like AutoHotKey or newer "intelligent keyboards'" utility with timer.
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:50 PM
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I would enjoy using macros to unlock all the character trials in the game, because they are impossible. It would be a "TAS" with a purpose other than entertainment.
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Posted: 9/7/2011 8:05 AM
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Mister Epic wrote:
I would totally be able to do such a thing with my Sidewinder X6 keyboard on the PC version I have.
yeah I use a sidewinder x4 but there are some good software macro tools available. Autoit or AutoMacro are better then autohotkey for this kind of thing, but hardware options seem the most precise. I've actually used that Sixaxis Emulator, it works really well if what you want is to use a keyboard on a ps3. It has some macros built in but it lacks the precision you would want. What motojohnson probably uses is something like this http://www.ncsx.com/www/ncs0330/ncs0406/asciipad.htm These Asciipad are hard to get a hold of in America nowadays but are the best option for tool assisted ps3 stuff here are some recent videos I made http://youtu.be/9BpkJ3sZczs http://youtu.be/bIh18an30RQ http://youtu.be/bIh18an30RQ
Posted: 6/20/2012 5:19 PM
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FODA wrote:
I would enjoy using macros to unlock all the character trials in the game, because they are impossible. It would be a "TAS" with a purpose other than entertainment.
if you can't do it,no point in actually reaching the other hahahah SDA had a similar thread for speedrunning trials in ssf4ae
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Posted: 12/22/2012 5:12 PM
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ALAKTORN wrote:
it’s a real TAS, that input is humanly impossible
that Dudley's moves is humanly impossible to do? you underestimates the human's hability
Posted: 12/22/2012 5:30 PM
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Felipe wrote:
ALAKTORN wrote:
it’s a real TAS, that input is humanly impossible
that Dudley's moves is humanly impossible to do? you underestimates the human's hability
Take a close look at the input sequence on the left side of the screen. All attack inputs are done perfectly and nearly instantaneously, there's not a single redundant input button or stick position, and the half-circle inputs don't include diagonals which would either mean that the stick is spun so fast that it skips the diagonal input (which would mean a speed fast enough to spin around the stick 15 times per second, at the very least), or an input sequence of left-neutral-down-neutral-right, which is very nearly impossible to do perfectly, let alone in a ~3-frame span. The input is clearly tool-assisted, and humanly impossible.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:06 PM
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I am not talking input about. You see things of way very technical. Also, as they say it is impossible to do?
Posted: 12/22/2012 6:15 PM
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Felipe wrote:
I am not talking input about. You see things of way very technical.
Look at the post you quoted yourself.
Felipe wrote:
ALAKTORN wrote:
it’s a real TAS, that input is humanly impossible
ALAKTORN was talking about the input, not about the moves.
Felipe wrote:
Also, as they say it is impossible to do?
If you mean the combo itself, then I'm not really sure about how 'impossible' it is, but it is at least very hard. I think I saw multiple one-frame-links that would be quite hard to do consistently, as well as a quite tricky meaty st.F+HP to U1 at the end, which is a one-frame link as well and requires perfect timing for the F+HP. It's maybe not impossible, but at the very least, very hard/ridiculously hard.
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