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To be fair, there has been a lot of Rainbow Dash too. Personally, I'm more concerned about the notable lack of Fluttershy the entire season.
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Episode 2x19 | 45 will be a Fluttershy episode.
Title: Putting Your Hoof Down
Synopsis: Iron Will helps Fluttershy become assertive.
Personally I'd like to see a Scootaloo episode though. ;)
That reminds me, where was Scootaloo in the last episode? Being RD's #1 fan, you would have thought she'd visit RD in the hospital at least once for some brownie points.
I don't think even the post-MTV generation would consider a song from 2010 to be "a classic old song". But then, you were probably being sarcastic... :P
Somebody managed to recreate the SM64 Staff Roll music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-HbEn5Sqzo
I loved how this turned out. I've seen and listened to the staff roll hundreds of times throughout my time here but it took me this long to realize how awesome this song is. I always thought it was seeing all the worlds again that made the staff roll feel awesome but thanks to ponies, it might the other way around (either that or nostalgia).
Personally, I'm more concerned about the notable lack of Fluttershy the entire season.
I think episode 19 will be dedicated to her.
OTOH, I have noticed that most episodes seem to be dedicated to Rainbow Dash, Applejack (or the Apple family) or the Crusaders. The others have had progressively less and less relevant screentime. Only minor and less important appearances (if at all). Even the "main main character" Twilight has suffered from this.
I think episode 19 will be dedicated to her.
OTOH, I have noticed that most episodes seem to be dedicated to Rainbow Dash, Applejack (or the Apple family) or the Crusaders. The others have had progressively less and less relevant screentime. Only minor and less important appearances (if at all). Even the "main main character" Twilight has suffered from this.
yeah they had all their screen time except Fluttershy and Twilight.. episode #19 is Fluttershy and then #20 is Twilight, I hope more episodes after that is Fluttershy or Twilight again.
I'm wondering why the show is so divisive. I don't remember any other show that's so divisive as this one.
If someone makes any kind of remark about ponies in some forum post or as a response to some blog post or whatever, something humorous like "this needs more ponies", there's a quite good chance that someone will start either insulting that person, or at the very least respond to him/her in a very belittling and dismissive manner, and a flamewar will ensue. Yes, I have seen actual examples of this.
The rational thing to do when someone posts something like "this needs more ponies" is to simply ignore it, if you don't find it funny. Or even if you do. Haha, someone made a lame joke; let's get on to more interesting things. But no, someone has to respond to it dismissively or in an outright insulting manner.
The irony is, by trying to sound "manly" or whatever, they are just sounding like a jerk. Why can't people just let other people have whatever hobbies they like, and make any references they like? (And it's not a question of the reference being off-topic or out-of-place. If it had been a reference to almost anything else, but equally off-topic, such as star wars or doctor who or whatever, it would have not resulted in such a response.)
I'm wondering why the show is so divisive. I don't remember any other show that's so divisive as this one.
If someone makes any kind of remark about ponies in some forum post or as a response to some blog post or whatever, something humorous like "this needs more ponies", there's a quite good chance that someone will start either insulting that person, or at the very least respond to him/her in a very belittling and dismissive manner, and a flamewar will ensue. Yes, I have seen actual examples of this.
The rational thing to do when someone posts something like "this needs more ponies" is to simply ignore it, if you don't find it funny. Or even if you do. Haha, someone made a lame joke; let's get on to more interesting things. But no, someone has to respond to it dismissively or in an outright insulting manner.
The irony is, by trying to sound "manly" or whatever, they are just sounding like a jerk. Why can't people just let other people have whatever hobbies they like, and make any references they like? (And it's not a question of the reference being off-topic or out-of-place. If it had been a reference to almost anything else, but equally off-topic, such as star wars or doctor who or whatever, it would have not resulted in such a response.)
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I would say it's a case of memetic saturation, and not of masculinity. Something experiences a massive surge of popularity, some people check it out and see nothing all that special, but see how people in circles they are part of get obsessed with it, talking about it for no good reason. It is viewed as invasive and unwelcome; these people have pony topics elsewhere, quite talking about it here! Add to that the fact that My Little Pony has been a franchise aimed squarely at little girls for nearly 30 years, and the amount of confusion and irritance only increases.
So yeah, I can understand how people may react violently. They don't think it's funny, just annoying.
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I would say it's a case of memetic saturation, and not of masculinity. Something experiences a massive surge of popularity, some people check it out and see nothing all that special, but see how people in circles they are part of get obsessed with it, talking about it for no good reason. It is viewed as invasive and unwelcome; these people have pony topics elsewhere, quite talking about it here! Add to that the fact that My Little Pony has been a franchise aimed squarely at little girls for nearly 30 years, and the amount of confusion and irritance only increases.
So yeah, I can understand how people may react violently. They don't think it's funny, just annoying.
Exactly. When I see random people mentioning Ponies in an unrelated Internet discussion, I just think they're really lame and pathetic.
Not because they like something that's not masculine, but because they think their fandom is such hot shit that they can't wait to mention it to every random stranger. The utter irrelevance of this to the target discussion doesn't stop them.
It's like an excited little kid that can't stop talking about his favorite shitty superhero cartoon.
For normal people, there are thousands of books, movies, TV shows, songs, comics, and animations they love. They also don't feel to randomly bring them up at every opportunity.
When I see random people mentioning Ponies in an unrelated Internet discussion, I just think they're really lame and pathetic.
That wasn't my objection. If someone thinks that a MLP reference is lame and pathetic, that's understandable. What crosses the line for me is when they start belittling and even outright insulting people who make such references. They act as if the MLP fans should "grow up", by acting in an extremely immature way themselves. That's hypocrisy.
Not because they like something that's not masculine, but because they think their fandom is such hot shit that they can't wait to mention it to every random stranger. The utter irrelevance of this to the target discussion doesn't stop them.
As I said, that's not the issue. If someone made a (completely off-topic) reference to almost anything else (such as Transformers, Star Trek or Doctor Who) nobody would think anything of it. It's only when someone makes a MLP reference that people start attacking for no good reason.
I really do think that the difference comes from a sense of masculinity and contempt towards (male) people who seem to go contrary to its tenets.
That wasn't my objection. If someone thinks that a MLP reference is lame and pathetic, that's understandable. What crosses the line for me is when they start belittling and even outright insulting people who make such references.
You're surprised that upon observing behavior that you admit is "lame and pathetic", some people will "belittle", and horror of horrors, even "insult" the childish idiot in question? Really? Are you pulling our leg?
Warp wrote:
As I said, that's not the issue. If someone made a (completely off-topic) reference to almost anything else (such as Transformers, Star Trek or Doctor Who)
People make frequent off-topic references to Star Trek, Transformers, and/or Doctor Who?! I've honestly never seen a single example of the last two. I'm curious what wacky forum this is.
Warp wrote:
It's only when someone makes a MLP reference that people start attacking for no good reason.
I really do think that the difference comes from a sense of masculinity and contempt towards (male) people who seem to go contrary to its tenets.
To me having an argument about this really seems more like arguing for the sake of arguing more than anything else. And in fact, that's what I'm going to do now.
Memes are the cancer that kills science and creativity. The ponies are cute likeable girls that males are programmed to care for, protect and defend. Their effects are amplified by stimulating and shiny colors, big eyes and talented voice actresses. They hijack our brains so that we keep watching the show. There is hardly any good reason to, entertainment is not an end of its own. Memes are cancer. There are one or two good episodes, being a fan of the entire show is an utter waste of time. You might argue that joining the beautiful MLP community is not a waste of time, but it is in light of more productive and founded in reality communities that you could have been joining instead. It might be ok to watch MLP to explore a part of your personality you haven't been familiar with thus far, but being a fan seems to be overdoing it. It's a bit like glorifying drugs like chocolate for its mood-boosting effects, ignoring the loss of potential to feel positive emotions for more sensible reasons that comes with frequent consumption of chocolate. Doing something that makes you feel good for no good reason is usually bad. Besides being a waste of time, it makes the positive emotions that are associated with doing normal, less rewarding things for good reasons seem less significant in comparison, in short it kills all motivation to do the little but important things in our lives. Memes and drugs must be fought, they are cancer.
You're surprised that upon observing behavior that you admit is "lame and pathetic", some people will "belittle", and horror of horrors, even "insult" the childish idiot in question? Really? Are you pulling our leg?
I don't understand your hostility, so I'll just ignore it.
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Kuwaga wrote:
Memes are the cancer that kills science and creativity. The ponies are cute likeable girls that males are programmed to care for, protect and defend. Their effects are amplified by stimulating and shiny colors, big eyes and talented voice actresses. They hijack our brains so that we keep watching the show. There is hardly any good reason to, entertainment is not an end of its own. Memes are cancer. There are one or two good episodes, being a fan of the entire show is an utter waste of time. You might argue that joining the beautiful MLP community is not a waste of time, but it is in light of more productive and founded in reality communities that you could have been joining instead. It might be ok to watch MLP to explore a part of your personality you haven't been familiar with thus far, but being a fan seems to be overdoing it. It's a bit like glorifying drugs like chocolate for its mood-boosting effects, ignoring the loss of potential to feel positive emotions for more sensible reasons that comes with frequent consumption of chocolate. Doing something that makes you feel good for no good reason is usually bad. Besides being a waste of time, it makes the positive emotions that are associated with doing normal, less rewarding things for good reasons seem less significant in comparison, in short it kills all motivation to do the little but important things in our lives. Memes and drugs must be fought, they are cancer.
are you completely insane?
This honestly sounds like the ranting of someone who has no less than 4 personalities, each of which is clinically depressed.
Memes are the cancer that kills science and creativity. The ponies are cute likeable girls that males are programmed to care for, protect and defend. Their effects are amplified by stimulating and shiny colors, big eyes and talented voice actresses. They hijack our brains so that we keep watching the show. There is hardly any good reason to, entertainment is not an end of its own. Memes are cancer. There are one or two good episodes, being a fan of the entire show is an utter waste of time. You might argue that joining the beautiful MLP community is not a waste of time, but it is in light of more productive and founded in reality communities that you could have been joining instead. It might be ok to watch MLP to explore a part of your personality you haven't been familiar with thus far, but being a fan seems to be overdoing it. It's a bit like glorifying drugs like chocolate for its mood-boosting effects, ignoring the loss of potential to feel positive emotions for more sensible reasons that comes with frequent consumption of chocolate. Doing something that makes you feel good for no good reason is usually bad. Besides being a waste of time, it makes the positive emotions that are associated with doing normal, less rewarding things for good reasons seem less significant in comparison, in short it kills all motivation to do the little but important things in our lives. Memes and drugs must be fought, they are cancer.
are you completely insane?
This honestly sounds like the ranting of someone who has no less than 4 personalities, each of which is clinically depressed.
Seconded.
Kuwaga, dude, you've got bronies worried about your mental stability...
So everybody who refuses to be happy for no good reason has split personalities and is clinically depressed? I see, that convinces me I should be taking more drugs, watching more TV shows and playing more video games indeed. Let's all enjoy this glory and happiness that Western civilization has brought upon us! We don't know our neighbours but can effortlessly name tons of little ponies, video game characters and superstars. Also watch more porn, who cares about developing healthy sexual relationships with real people? Let's all just be happy, as that's definitely our sole purpose in life, and not worry so much about reality! If believing something makes you happy, it's totally ok as well! Let's not try to get to know our partners really deep down inside, how about just taking a shortcut instead and pretend they're perfect, pretend to be really in love just because it feels good, then filing a divorce a few years later? Who cares about reality, our top priority by far is to become happy, no matter the cause, right? I might have overstated my point, but calling me insane is overstating the opposite point as well, and it's furthermore and ad hominem and possibly psychological projection.
Excessive happiness for no good reason limits our freedom of choice, I believe it should be reserved only for meaningful activities. You can become just as happy that way, it just might be harder to achieve than through mindless self-indulgence. Would you have deliberately chosen to watch all MLP episodes for a good reason, or have you been coerced to it? Haven't you tried it because there might be something to it, enjoyed being distracted from real life, watched further episodes because you've started to care for the characters, watched more episodes and claimed you liked the show in an effort to provide a coherent frame for your actions? ("Well, I have watched 5 episodes now, so I might as well watch the rest and admit I like it before admitting I've watched these 5 episodes for no good reason") None of this? Does that seem such an absurd idea?
It is easy and natural to rationalize our irrational actions afterwards, again providing a coherent frame for our actions. A girl sleeping with a guy for no good reason, then concluding it means she must like him, there must be something to him, maintaining a relationship for a while, so she doesn't seem like a slut to herself in her mind. It's pretty easy and natural for her to make up reasons for why she'd like him after the fact. I see MLP fandom in a similar way. What are good reasons for starting to watch the show, besides just giving it a try or it being fun (I don't consider either of them to be good reasons btw)?
