Happy non-religion specific celebration of a festivity happening on or close to the winter solstice, or lack thereof.
HOW DARE YOU START A WAR ON CHRISTMAS ON THIS SITE?!?
EVEN THOUGH THE CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY TOOK THE DATE FROM THE PAGAN HOLIDAY OF THE WINTER SOLSTICE, AND WAS CO-OPTED BY THE EMPEROR CONSTANTINE TO MAKE THE TRANSITION TO CHRISTIANITY EASIER, I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY! RAGE!
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DarkKobold wrote:
Warp wrote:
Happy non-religion specific celebration of a festivity happening on or close to the winter solstice, or lack thereof.
HOW DARE YOU START A WAR ON CHRISTMAS ON THIS SITE?!?
EVEN THOUGH THE CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY TOOK THE DATE FROM THE PAGAN HOLIDAY OF THE WINTER SOLSTICE, AND WAS CO-OPTED BY THE EMPEROR CONSTANTINE TO MAKE THE TRANSITION TO CHRISTIANITY EASIER, I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY! RAGE!
I was just going to make a joke on those american religious Fanatics who declared war on wal-mart because they said Happy holidays.
Happy Holidays!
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese
[19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
EVEN THOUGH THE CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY TOOK THE DATE FROM THE PAGAN HOLIDAY OF THE WINTER SOLSTICE, AND WAS CO-OPTED BY THE EMPEROR CONSTANTINE TO MAKE THE TRANSITION TO CHRISTIANITY EASIER, I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY! RAGE!
It's a good day to celebrate Jesus too, because he said that he is the light of the world, which the sun symbolizes. The winter solstice is the death and resurrection of the sun, so it's an appropriate day to also celebrate the spiritual light. See this if you're interested to know more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZgT1SRcrKE
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Bobo the King wrote:
Skeptics are never defensive.
"Skeptic" is just a nice label that anyone can choose to describe themselves with. It doesn't actually much because even complete shills and charlatans proclaim to be one as a way of making themselves appear pensive and intelligent.
I've met plenty of people who spout the most bizarre nonsense about all sorts of stuff and then follow up with the excuse that they're "just skeptics", and that I'm "against skepticism" or even that I know I'm wrong and just don't want to hear it.
Not that there's anything wrong with healthy skepticism, of course, but as a word it's abused all the time by people who don't have a serious interest in rational thought.
edit: oh, this is supposed to be a season greetings topic.
I may be an atheist with no particular attachment to any end-of-year holiday, but let's all try to take some time out of our busy schedules of buying mostly unnecessary things for each other to acknowledge that we're all idiots, and that our idiocy is what makes us human. And watch out with fireworks.
...but let's all try to take some time out of our busy schedules of buying mostly unnecessary things for each other to acknowledge that we're all idiots, and that our idiocy is what makes us human. And watch out with fireworks.
Fireworks on X-mas? Whoa.
Also, buying shit is awesome.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Dada wrote:
...but let's all try to take some time out of our busy schedules of buying mostly unnecessary things for each other to acknowledge that we're all idiots, and that our idiocy is what makes us human. And watch out with fireworks.
Fireworks on X-mas? Whoa.
That's my holiday greeting, not specifically my x-mas greeting. :)
Alternative answer: why not?
Take it easy, there's no need to get so defensive.
Actually there is. Misinformation is always detrimental at all levels of society. (And I'm not even going into your deliberate misuse of the term "defensive".)
Dada wrote:
I've met plenty of people who spout the most bizarre nonsense about all sorts of stuff and then follow up with the excuse that they're "just skeptics", and that I'm "against skepticism" or even that I know I'm wrong and just don't want to hear it.
There's a relatively widespread misconception that "skepticism" and "critical thinking" (as they are defined in the philosophy of science) mean "be skeptical/critical of established science / official stories". Another misconception (which may overlap with the previous) is that they mean "doubt everything as a matter of principle".
Of course that's not what they mean at all. Instead, what they mean is, roughly, "don't believe something without proper evidence." (Of course it then comes down to what is "proper evidence", but that's another lengthy story in itself.)
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Warp wrote:
Of course that's not what they mean at all. Instead, what they mean is, roughly, "don't believe something without proper evidence." (Of course it then comes down to what is "proper evidence", but that's another lengthy story in itself.)
The reason why I say that the term "skeptic" means very little is partly because, like you say, people can use it to mean anything. Even if you rightly call yourself a skeptic by the proper definition, it doesn't prove anything about what you're saying. You could still be completely wrong about whatever the subject is.
So unless you're writing a paper on philosophical movements or the scientific method, it's really just a fancy label that people apply to themselves because it makes them feel better, and shouldn't come up in regular discourse.
Actually there is. Misinformation is always detrimental at all levels of society. (And I'm not even going into your deliberate misuse of the term "defensive".)
Ok, but the video I posted is not misinformation, most of it is good general information about astrotheology, so it's a good introduction video for people new to that. Of course, you're free to disagree. Read here if you're interested to know more:
http://davidpratt.info/christian.htmhttp://www.usbible.com/Astrology/gospel_zodiac.htm
As for your complaining about my choice of words, maybe the right word would have been emotional or aggressive, I don't know, I'm not an expert in English.
Ok, but the video I posted is not misinformation, most of it is good general information about astrotheology, so it's a good introduction video for people new to that.
It's not a good introduction to anything. Not to astrology, theology, religion or the history of any of those (which would have become clear if you had read the website I linked, which you clearly haven't). This is not even a question of skepticism and rational thinking. It's a question of accurate history.
(Come on, equivocating "sun" and "son" because they sound similar in English? You gotta be kidding me. And it only goes downhill from there.)
Sage advice from a friend of Jim: So put your tinfoil hat back in the closet, open your eyes to the truth, and realize that the government is in fact causing austismal cancer with it's 9/11 fluoride vaccinations of your water supply.
(Come on, equivocating "sun" and "son" because they sound similar in English? You gotta be kidding me.
I doubt that was supposed to be an argument or point in the movie (at least, I never remember them saying that), it was just a clever use of words. There could be something to it though.. I haven't researched into it, but there are other arguments in the movie supporting the Christ and sun symbolism and relationship, like the 12 disciples representing the twelve signs of the Zodiac (that's why there are 4 gospels, ie. the 4 elements of the signs of the Zodiac). In the beginning of the book of Ezekiel you can also read that God's throne is the Zodiac. There's a lot of astrological references in the Bible, but I'm not saying that's all the Bible is. There are several layers of meaning in many of the stories.
This is not even a question of skepticism and rational thinking. It's a question of accurate history.
Keep in mind that you're talking to a person who believes that giant telepathic humans in Atlantis and Lemuria are a part of our history and that our thoughts are recorded in astral light.
