This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3450: goofydylan8's NES The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles in 11:12.16

Let me do a temporal encode for this. EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1e0eh4cumY

I was not sure on the protocol for improving on movies that were still in the submission queue. It appeared that others agreed that the other movie was not up to TASVideos standards. I tried to encourage canceling the submission and having XTREMAL93 improving and resubmitting. It did not seem that there was going to be a response to this request so I just did the run myself and here are the results.

Don't worry about it, this happened before.

Not the most entertaining run i've ever seen, but good enough for a yes vote from me.

Competing submissions of the same game, woohoo! :P

In the end, I managed so save at least two frames on each "scene" (from fade to black to the next fade to black) and in many cases saved many seconds in each segment

How?

Let me do a temporal encode for this. EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1e0eh4cumY

Not so good encode

How?

Short answer: TASEditor v1.0.

Not so good encode

Make better encode, if you like the game. Or even better, go and beat this record! ;)

go and beat this record! ;)

Maybe in future)

Very nice improvement, I feel that there was some downtime that could have been used to do entertaining shenanigans. I was however still entertained enough to give this a yes vote.

Let me do a temporal encode for this. EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1e0eh4cumY

Not so good encode

Man, it just temporal. If this get accepted, maybe someone will encode it with logo and subtitles.

I will if it's accepted. But only HD for youtube. EDIT: About the run. Is there vertical and horizontal acceleration? You have weird placement on elevators, you walk further on them and then have to leave them later than it looks possible. Also sometimes you don't jump before leaving the upper platform, but just walk off it. Normally it causes to reach the lower floor later due to lack of vertical acceleration. Is it the case here? Isn't it faster to start walking before the electric wall disappears, do you gain any speed so?

Competing submissions of the same game, woohoo! :P

This may catch the attention of a certain TAS God....

ThatGugaWhoPlay: Thanks for the temp encode. XTREMAL93: As AnS said TAS Editor really makes it easier to optimize, but in addition to that it is just to retry every jump and enemy a couple different ways to find the quickest way and watching RAM addresses like velocity to minimize losses. Warepire: Yeah, sorry about that. As I said in the submission text I recorded this without any show-off aspects because I really just wanted to see if I could beat the submitted film. When I finally decided I would submit I tried to go back through and doing the extra actions caused the cut-scenes and level transitions to be longer. feos: There is indeed vertical and horizontal acceleration (excluding when running left. For some reason running left the acceleration process is bypassed and you also don't slow down running up slopes. They apparently forgot the fact that there are levels where you move left and didn't code it in properly). The weird placement on the elevator is because the elevators don't begin to move down until you stop on the platform. The extra distance is because it saves time to get the elevator to move at the fastest possible frame but due to the deceleration you slide and end up a little further out. It ends up being faster to have to run a couple extra pixels for the frames gained. Looking back there may be a few situations where frames could be saved if I had jumped off of platforms instead of running off. Maximum x-velocity is achieved both during all frames in the air and when you have achieved full speed at running so if the goal is moving right then either running off or jumping off are equal speed. The situations where time could be saved are where the goal is to get to the bottom of the screen faster or if forward momentum has to be halted due to walls or other obstacles. There are not many situations where it has a chance to and it wouldn't save more than 2 frames on the jumps, so I am not sure if it is worth fixing all of the desynchs that would result. I would like to hear your opinion about what you think I should do here. I actually do start walking a bit before the electric walls so speed is actually taken care of. Most of the startup acceleration time is going from the 0 x-speed to actual movement so unless I did something wrong I believe they are currently optimized.

Did someone wrote "frame war"? because I totally read frame war. Anyway, yes vote.

Thanks for the encode, ThatGugaWhoPlay!

Did someone wrote "frame war"? because I totally read frame war.

No one said it, but that's what it looks like to me. I was entertained throughout the run. The pace of the platforming is about the same as my first run (a GBC game). Voting Yes.

This may catch the attention of a certain TAS God....

This looks quite a bit better, especially the boss fights. The landing delays get a little annoying, but it looks like you did a pretty good job with them. I found one small optimization concern, though: when you navigate past the electric barriers, you walk your way mostly into a barrier while you wait for it to disappear. It seems like it should be faster to wait a little farther away, and you start walking before the barrier disappears. That way, by the time the barrier disappears, you've already accelerated to your max walking speed (instead of doing what you're doing now, which is starting from rest). Regardless, this is good enough for a Yes vote on a first run of the game.

Publication underway. Feos, are you still encoding this, or can I take it? It really won't waste any time for me to do it if I'm doing the others.

I can do it now. How much time I have? Encoding... EDIT: Pray for me not to get desync on YT.

I can do it now. How much time I have? Encoding...

Just try to get it done / tell us you've given up in the next day or two. As long as I know where you're at, we're good.

Desynced T_T

I'll do them all then.

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