This topic is for the purpose of discussing #4235: Sopreti's Windows Castle in the Darkness Prologue in 01:33.50

This looks like a pretty cool game, and I found the run to have enough action to keep it entertaining for the duration of its (short) length. Yes vote.

Interesting. So what's the status of this game? As far as I can tell, the prologue is a short demo of the full game, which has been Greenlit on Steam and was expected early in 2013, but I can't find it available anywhere?

Since this is just a demo of a game, I don't think there should be a TAS of it on the site. I know that the game hasn't been released yet, but that doesn't change the fact that it's not a full game. As for the run itself, it doesn't look optimized. TASes aim for perfection and perfection is not achieved by not using the most basic tools to their full extent. TASes should never forgo the use of frame advance and it never hurts to use a lot of rerecords to check if you can do something faster, be it a jump or an attack or even a simple action such as entering a door. Based on these thoughts, I will have to vote no. I encourage you to try to improve this run for the good practice it provides and post your WIPs on the forum (not submitting them, but creating a thread for this game and posting the WIPs there) to get feedback.

In this case, a "demo" is similar to having the shareware (free) version of a game instead of the full (paid) version. By precedent, we already allow runs like that, and I see no reason to disqualify this one just because it's a "demo". (disqualifying it on grounds of quality is another matter)

Yeah this run doesn't look incredibly polished. It seemed to me that sometimes you didn't enter the doors as soon as you could. Also, I don't really care about it being a demo, unless we have confirmation that the full game is still being worked on. I don't think this is comparable to a shareware DOS game, or at least the ones we have published. The published sharewares seem to be runs of "episode x" where a full version would not be any different.

The game is available here as freeware, on what appears to be the main site. The problem is that the current version available there is v1.25, and I wasn't able to find v1.18 anywhere or sync the run on v1.25. Since the game is freeware, I think it would be appropriate to ask the author to upload the v1.18 game exe somewhere so others could play back the run.

The run looks pretty fun. However, the submission describes potentially six seconds of improvement from better luck manipulation. For a run which is this short, that is a significant amount of savings. More should be done here to see whether that timesaver is possible.

I can't get it to sync, even with v1.18... it dies after avoiding mask

Currently improving it. Improved 20 frames before mask But I can't compare without getting mask sync :(

It's OK guys, as I said it was my first TAS and I just wanted to learn how to use the tools (even if I didn't use everything). When I finish it I asked myself "why not suggest it on TASvideo ?" but I shall understand if you refuse it. By the way I used the version of the game I had on my computer and didn't search if there was a later version, so I think I'm gonna delete my two suggestion and maybe do it again another time. Sorry guys.

No need to sorry :) We will always be glad to see you improving your skills and posting WIPs at where I described in your other submission thread.

Feos: Did you managed to get it sync? I would like to improve it but I cant, it desync at first mask

om, nom, nom... crunchy!