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Synx wrote:
Is it possible to skip shield too now? Or is it needed to block bombchu damage or something?
ISG, HESS, gohma clip, megaflip, hovers, etc
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"Spider-Waffle must rolling in his grave now" Cosmo 2014 I'm still thinking about getting the sword though, after Save and Quit....
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What? Why would you get the sword?
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Synx wrote:
What? Why would you get the sword?
No more deku stick, faster gohma fight and possibly faster ISG for Slab clip (I don't even know how to name the gohma clip now...) Obviously it's just a suggestion and even me, I doubt this will be faster but I don't know what about after exiting Link' house, doing a megaflip and clip through the fence and then falling oob with some hoover after getting the sword, that might be an idea....
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Amateseru wrote:
Synx wrote:
What? Why would you get the sword?
No more deku stick, faster gohma fight and possibly faster ISG for Slab clip (I don't even know how to name the gohma clip now...) Obviously it's just a suggestion and even me, I doubt this will be faster but I don't know what about after exiting Link' house, doing a megaflip and clip through the fence and then falling oob with some hoover after getting the sword, that might be an idea....
With stick ISG, gohma is already super fast anyway, sword wouldn't really speed it up much. As for getting the sword and then going OoB back into the unloaded forest, that's a really cool idea... not sure if it would be quicker but it definately sounds cool, maybe it's worth looking into :P Edit: you can megaflip off the top of the sword chest into unloaded kokiri forest
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GlitchesAndStuff wrote:
Edit: you can megaflip off the top of the sword chest into unloaded kokiri forest
OK ok interesting.... WAIT WHAT ?! Is it what I'm thinking ? Does that mean we can HESS to the deku tree in a total unloaded area ? Anyway after all I doubt this will be faster
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Btw. can you do 231 skip and the wrong warp in one go? Nobody has gotten that yet, which includes Bloob.
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Slowking wrote:
Btw. can you do 231 skip and the wrong warp in one go? Nobody has gotten that yet, which includes Bloob.
So I just got it with no slab, usual mst set up, nothing changed, even with 2-3-1 skip, now I will try with the "TAS" condition. I will update this message as soon as I get it (hopefully I will) Edit: got it, wait a sec for the video
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Does anyone have a list for the useful RAM addresses?(like angle, speed, etc) A .wch for BizHawk would be awesome but an adress list is enough :)
I problably made mistakes, sorry for my bad English, I'm French :v
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Domain RDRAM
SystemID N64
11A667	b	u	1	RDRAM	Bomchu amount
11A65D	b	u	1	RDRAM	Bomb amount
11A65C	b	u	1	RDRAM	Arrow amount
11A65E	b	u	0	RDRAM	Deku Nut amount
11A667	b	u	0	RDRAM	Bombchu amount
11A65F	b	u	0	RDRAM	Deku Stick Amount
11A674	b	b	0	RDRAM	Mediallions 2 songs
11A675	b	b	0	RDRAM	4warp 4normal songs
11B9A6	b	s	0	RDRAM	Timer (trade, escape)
1DAA5A	w	h	0	RDRAM	Höhe beschleunigung2?
1C894E	b	h	0	RDRAM	Warp timer indicator
1DB258	d	f	0	RDRAM	Link's Speed
1DAA54	d	f	0	RDRAM	Link's X
1DAA58	d	f	0	RDRAM	Link's Y (height)
1DAA5C	d	f	0	RDRAM	Link's Z
11A646	b	h	0	RDRAM	Deku Nut Slot
11A647	b	h	0	RDRAM	Deku Stick Slot
11A64F	b	h	0	RDRAM	Bombchu Slot
11A602	b	u	0	RDRAM	Health
11A645	b	h	0	RDRAM	Bomb Slot
All I have for 1.0 U. Those adresses for Link's position do correspond to it, but they won't move him through walls, so I think there are better ones, but if you just want to see where he is, these give the same output.
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Link to video I hope it's ok now :p
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I had an idea to do the new 2-3-1 Skip without explosives: Link to video Sadly there is a wall blocking your way directly in front of the vines, so I can't do the Mega Flip from a higher spot. I have no idea if there is any realistic chance to clip Out of Bounds from this spot, but I thought sharing this with you might be a good idea. Would be cool if someone else would try this as well.
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MrGrunz wrote:
I had an idea to do the new 2-3-1 Skip without explosives: Link to video Sadly there is a wall blocking your way directly in front of the vines, so I can't do the Mega Flip from a higher spot. I have no idea if there is any realistic chance to clip Out of Bounds from this spot, but I thought sharing this with you might be a good idea. Would be cool if someone else would try this as well.
Please do not make this possible, i want chus in any% lol
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Haha, me too :D But I guess it's better to discover this now than later on when we are already far into the run ;)
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Yeah true haha
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MrGrunz wrote:
Haha, me too :D But I guess it's better to discover this now than later on when we are already far into the run ;)
I did some testing with this over year ago with this and I couldn't get it to work, I made this video back then showing the theory: Link to video But that doesn't mean it's impossible, I just never got it to work
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The full wrong warp: Link to video I used a savestate with 2-3-1 skipped and the warp moved closer to the entrance. I'm pretty sure the warp doesn't have to be this close to the entrance. Also, the first chu should explode without any waiting, even if it means colliding it with a third chu. The timer manipulation here was also crap. If we're still unsure whether getting chus is faster we need to optimize this including the Gohma fight before timing anything.
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Slowi made a fair point on youtube that my idea is pretty pointless anyway, because we can't leave the boss room after beating Gohma. I think your clip looks way more promising than mine, G&S. So the problem was you just couldn't do the clip? I can't see any reason why the clip shouldn't be possible using a mega flip from the spider :/ Would be still cool to pull this off, maybe it has some future uses. Seeing how my idea can't work anyway, I'm sure chus are faster now for any%. I think we can get ourselves prepared for a new amazing any% TAS now.
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Bloobiebla wrote:
The full wrong warp: Link to video I used a savestate with 2-3-1 skipped and the warp moved closer to the entrance. I'm pretty sure the warp doesn't have to be this close to the entrance. Also, the first chu should explode without any waiting, even if it means colliding it with a third chu. The timer manipulation here was also crap. If we're still unsure whether getting chus is faster we need to optimize this including the Gohma fight before timing anything.
This is great!
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MrGrunz wrote:
So the problem was you just couldn't do the clip?
Yes, but since the clip depends on fall speed, backwards speed, angle AND position you start from, it's quite possible that it's not doable from that one skulltula spot... Anyway, the spot I show in the video couldn't 231 skip with a jumpslash recoil like I do in my other video, it just gets to unloaded B1 Edit: Also, I forgot to say it but grats to Bloob for getting that on video :)
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Bloobiebla wrote:
The full wrong warp: Link to video I used a savestate with 2-3-1 skipped and the warp moved closer to the entrance. I'm pretty sure the warp doesn't have to be this close to the entrance.
Oh thank you for TASing it <3 Btw did you used the savestates of G&S , if you did, then yes, the warp doesn't have to be so close to the entrance :) the best thing will be to have it as close as possible of Link after beating Gohma
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Wouldn't the best thing be to take the least time possible setting up Gohma's position? Like the fastest warp position to get that can make us get the warp
I problably made mistakes, sorry for my bad English, I'm French :v
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Amateseru wrote:
Btw did you used the savestates of G&S
Yeah MTA said he gave Bloob my savestate
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So when's the TAS starting? so hyped for it :D
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MTA wrote:
So when's the TAS starting? so hyped for it :D
Yeah me too! We should work on this in a team like we did for the 100% TAS. You should start the run as soon as possible and get this amazing shit finally going! I will definitely join as well after I've finished all of my exams in 2 weeks. Good luck with the rupee manipulation, I'll pray to god that you get it done before I join so I don't have to bother with it ;P