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krohn7master, I'd suggest that you stop throwing insults to people who post here.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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He threw insults at onReload who "insulted" him, but it doesn't matter, it has no place here. About the luck you say you had, it's hard to believe it would happen on a perfect mario64+n64 set. Perhaps it was a crooked cartridge thing, which can potentially generate the same effect as any GS code.
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DemonStrate wrote:
I hope this is proof enough that it was done via Gameshark: Super Mario 64 - Gameshark Water Walk Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo0k1ze7jKE
ok, that convinces me. Got to admit, it was a nice hoax though.
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im'd me for whatever reason as i might as well throw this on the drama pile krohn7master: Hello onReload: hi krohn7master: I find your response hilarious krohn7master: "He also failed to address SL's suggestion about playing pre-made footage (i.e. gameshark/tas'd stuff that he TV-out'd to his TV.) We don't hear the insane tapping of the A button and we certainly don't see it." krohn7master: Did you even watch the video krohn7master: ? onReload: yeah onReload: you're driven to prove this but it doesn't even make any sense, you haven't done the basic thing which is to first walk into the water, have mario swim ,then do your little trick and have him walk underwater onReload: you showed that you were using a 3rd party controller and you left the camera on it for about half a second if even that much onReload: nothing showed it was autofire onReload: and i don't care onReload: because you still have to prove something onReload: and you haven't onReload: which is what i already typed krohn7master: What is it that I have to prove? krohn7master: I've already proved everything I can onReload: first walk into the water, have mario swim ,then do your little trick and have him walk underwater...but even then you could still have a code activated on the fly, and no you have not proven everything, you haven't shown anybody an m64 file onReload: which shows inputs and other details krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works krohn7master: I would of done that by now, but I can't. onReload: what about people talking about your walking on slopes? onReload: like walking down a slope that would normally have you slide right off krohn7master: So..what? I need to make a proof video of me doing those? onReload: no because again there's always a possibility that you're not using a clean method onReload: which is why the m64 has been brought up again and again krohn7master: yeah onReload: standing on a slope the way you did should be a lot easier than flying into the water without swimming krohn7master: I would happily make the m64' onReload: uh huh krohn7master: but i am having problems onReload: yeah onReload: and the triforce is in ocarina of time onReload: if you learn the 8th sages' song krohn7master: lol krohn7master: of course krohn7master: Hahaha krohn7master: Thats like saying the sky is green or something onReload: yes it is krohn7master: I've never even played OoT and I still know all those rumors are fake onReload: that's my point onReload: it's as fake as your trouble with mupen and walking on slopes and going underwater onReload: so just go to school krohn7master: I'm in school right now :P krohn7master: it kind of reminds me of that rumor where Mew is under the truck in those original pokemon games onReload: yeah onReload: the triforce rumor was a big big thing on internet forums back when ocarina was out onReload: the girl got email spammed to her even after admitting that it was fake krohn7master: I don't get why it's such a big deal, its a freakin video game onReload: you kind of fueled the argument krohn7master: Anyways krohn7master: I know you guys want an m64 krohn7master: and I will get it as soon as I can krohn7master: I won't lie.. krohn7master: But what I don't understand is why people think the proof video I made is fake too onReload: watch some of the youtube links one guy posted onReload: faking shit is really easy onReload: and you could have a modded n64 or cart with a gameshark hardware in it or all kinds of things krohn7master: Oh what the hell? Are you serious, dude. krohn7master: DO you really think I'd take something like this THAT far it went on
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There's no reason to bring that discussion here. It's a thread to discuss mario 64 TAS and techniques. krohn already said it was accidental, so if he's saying the truth then it's either a bug nobody can yet explain or a badly placed cartridge. We have already analised it to the extent of our knowledge and it doesn't seem to be a bug we know. So he has the best chances to teach us how to reproduce it. If he's lying then we don't do anything and the story ends here. Case closed.
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Yes, the conversation itself doesn't really present damming evidence (if any). Not that there is still a lot of unanswered questions. Although I will admit that I believe krohn is deliberatley stalling by not trying to recreate what he's done on on a .m64. EDIT: I will give you give you 2 weeks starting from Tommorow to prove what you did on a .m64.
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This guy follows the patterns of liars pretty well, he get's angry easily when poeple don't believe him and "forgets" to address the important questions to instead focus on minor stuff. If he was truthful he would've already done some more proof vids/m64 by now instead of trying to convince everyone that the one already up is completely real. Also if i'm not completely mistaken, he'll quote most of this post soon and write about how ignorant i am. Demonstrate's video pretty much already proven this guy is fake unless he can create the exact same effect as gameshark has without gameshark which is beyond unlikely. How about just ignoring him?
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onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
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z0MG wrote:
onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
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DemonStrate wrote:
I hope this is proof enough that it was done via Gameshark: Super Mario 64 - Gameshark Water Walk Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo0k1ze7jKE
Did you people all completely miss my post a few pages back? I posted this EXACT same information. <_<
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This whole situation reminds me of an incident that happened to me back in middle school. Someone I sat with claimed that you could gain access to a few more worlds by jumping into the waterfall outside the castle and landing in a cannon that was supposedly hidden inside. I tried many times, asking him about particulars, and each time it was different, with the process changing or new details being added. Eventually I invited him to my next birthday party for the sole purpose of having him prove it. He refused to take the controller on the basis of, "It's really hard to do!" Yeah. (keep in mind we were 11/12 at the time)
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DaTeL237 wrote:
the following would be a good test i think: 1) find RAM locations and cheats for mario X, Y and Z locations 2) find values for X, Y, Z that are in front of the castle moat door (find these while water is lowered so height for standing-on-ground is ok) 3) stand on solid ground with the water raised on a new file 4) rotate mario so that he would be facing the door 5) pause emu 6) activate X Y Z cheats with the found values 7) continue emu
Could someone try this idea in both standing state and "smashed into the floor" state. If we start swimming instead of opening the door in both cases this rules out numerous possibilities.
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DaTeL237 wrote:
DemonStrate wrote:
DaTeL237 wrote:
DemonStrate wrote:
I hope this is proof enough that it was done via Gameshark: Super Mario 64 - Gameshark Water Walk Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo0k1ze7jKE
Indeed it's convincing that the video was done using that cheat, but the videos also suggest to me that the door is fully functional :) I still think it may be possible to use the door if mario moves from standing-on-ground to be-in-front-of-door in 1 frame (which could be tested using GS)
If you need me to test anything else, just tell me. It doesn't take long to record a video and upload it.
If you can also run an emulator then the following would be a good test i think: 1) find RAM locations and cheats for mario X, Y and Z locations 2) find values for X, Y, Z that are in front of the castle moat door (find these while water is lowered so height for standing-on-ground is ok) 3) stand on solid ground with the water raised on a new file 4) rotate mario so that he would be facing the door 5) pause emu 6) activate X Y Z cheats with the found values 7) continue emu
Well, when I said about testing something, I sort of meant on the N64 with GS, since anyone has access to an emulator. For one, I don't know to how to do that, and two, it sounds like someone who has experience with RAM locations in Mario 64 should take a look at. A few pages ago, there was one post about a RAM location of something, so I'd ask that guy. If you want me to record something using my N64, I'd be willing to do that.
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Forge wrote:
z0MG wrote:
onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video (17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it? (17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/ (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64 (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it? (17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu (17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright (17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording (17:27) Johannes: starting from start (17:27) Johannes: and do your trick (17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however (17:57) Johannes: O_O (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging Etc.
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I think it could be real. What I'm wondering is the rate of speed the autofire is going at.
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z0MG wrote:
Forge wrote:
z0MG wrote:
onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video (17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it? (17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/ (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64 (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it? (17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu (17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright (17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording (17:27) Johannes: starting from start (17:27) Johannes: and do your trick (17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however (17:57) Johannes: O_O (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging Etc.
Oh, I meant the blj on the blue slope in the lobby, not the walk under water thing. Sorry for making it unclear.
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krohn7master wrote:
z0MG wrote:
Forge wrote:
z0MG wrote:
onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video (17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it? (17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/ (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64 (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it? (17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu (17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright (17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording (17:27) Johannes: starting from start (17:27) Johannes: and do your trick (17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however (17:57) Johannes: O_O (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging Etc.
Oh, I meant the blj on the blue slope in the lobby, not the walk under water thing. Sorry for making it unclear.
Why don't you just give up?
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Duksandfish wrote:
krohn7master wrote:
z0MG wrote:
Forge wrote:
z0MG wrote:
onReload wrote:
krohn7master: The thing is it that, there is no way I could ever pull off the walking under water trick again krohn7master: That happened out of nowhere krohn7master: and I have tried it over and over, and it never works
He said to me that it worked when he tried it on Mupen. :|
If you could post the chat log of that I'm pretty sure it'd be case closed, as FODA said.
(17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Hey, so I am going to make a .m64 file to show the trick for the Mario video (17:25) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Can you show me how to do it? (17:25) Johannes: gl.. :/ (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I can't wait to see the look on everyone's face when I show them this video (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: I need (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Mupen64 (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: and thats it? (17:26) Johannes: bluetoaster.com/emu (17:26) Johannes: get the recommended one (17:26) Krohn - Sk84lifz: alright (17:27) Johannes: utilities, movie, start movie recording (17:27) Johannes: starting from start (17:27) Johannes: and do your trick (17:27) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Okay (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: Alright (17:56) Krohn - Sk84lifz: So the trick is working (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: however (17:57) Johannes: O_O (17:57) Krohn - Sk84lifz: the video is lagging Etc.
Oh, I meant the blj on the blue slope in the lobby, not the walk under water thing. Sorry for making it unclear.
Why don't you just give up?
Give up what?
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I think he insulted you, swear some more and tell him that he has no life. That ought to do the trick.
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Cpadolf wrote:
I think he insulted you, swear some more and tell him that he has no life. That ought to do the trick.
= win
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Cpadolf wrote:
I think he insulted you, swear some more and tell him that he has no life. That ought to do the trick.
Hahaha I do admit I have been pretty insulting...sorry I did that, won't do it again. Finally, I really am done with this crap, and I think you guys are too...all what is getting done is flaming and flaming. I have provided you guys the proof I have, and I am done with making anymore. I am sorry I can prove anything else. If you guys think I used a GameShark..fine by me, I don't really care. I proved as much as I can, and I do not have anymore time to sit and argue and create a mupen movie. Sorry to disappoint.
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I do not have anymore time to sit and argue and create a mupen movie. Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason you aren't making one.
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I'm not taking sides, but everyone's attitude has been pretty terrible. I feel like I'm reading the Super Metroid thread from months back where someone posted a video of an impossibly quick time at the beginning section of the game and then someone else posted a video showing that it's easy to fake that time in an out-of-context video. Plenty of nasty forum posts ensued. I think that story had a happy ending to it though and now that area can be beaten even faster than the at-the-time-ridiculous first video. In any case, there was no proof in that situation until the input recording format* started from power-on was used as proof because as has been said before, videos prove exactly nothing. *.smv for the snes game, .m64 applies here
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mr_roberts_z wrote:
ZeXr0 wrote:
I don't remember, but what is the use of the button on the gameshark ? Does it enable/disable the cheat code ?
The only use I remember was pressing it to get 99 coins. It's possible that any code could be modified to be activated when the button is pressed.
Not only that, it's possible that any code can be modified to be activated when ANY button of your choice on the controller is pressed. You don't need to press the GS button in that case.
krohn7master wrote:
I have provided you guys the proof I have, and I am done with making anymore. I am sorry I can prove anything else. [...] Sorry to disappoint.
Perhaps you should be sorry to those whose hope you preyed on.
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You DO know what pre-recording IS, right? record you using the gameshark and then cut out the bits showing the gameshark logo etc. and adding that cheated part into your video collage. How does prerecording instantly mean you did not record yourself tapping the buttons? you were there, playing it with a cheat on, of course you needed to press buttons, of course the sounds were recorded. Anyways, since... 1) you said you can't repeat the trick (said this numerous times) 2) you repeated the trick numerous times in Mupen64 3) claim to be able to make a movie but making excuses so you don't need to share it. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT LAGS! YOU ARE RECORDING KEY INPUT, IF YOU DO IT WHILE RECORDING THEN UPLOAD THE FILE. (he speaks as though he is making an avi)
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