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Posted: 8/12/2017 8:19 PM
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BrunoVisnadi
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I'm also down for helping with Portuguese.
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Posted: 8/12/2017 8:38 PM
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Archanfel
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I think what if to give right to edit (and create new) pages for all registered users. Not only for editors as it now, but for all users who have right to vote. Something like TASVideos Fandom powered by Wikia. In this case everyone will be able to easily translated or improve existing articles at their native language. Editors (should be at least one for each language) will just from check from time to time recent changes and new articles/translations.
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Posted: 9/17/2017 2:49 PM
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Here are the 6 "main pages" translated in french : WelcomeToTASVideos MovieRules Guidelines SubmissionsInstructions SiteRules Helping
Posted: 9/18/2017 3:39 PM
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feos
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GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! The site staff took some effort and now we can properly organize all our translations in a semi-automatic way!
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 9/18/2017 3:59 PM
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Noxxa
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With some discussion with feos and some cooperation with Nach, I added a new wiki module for use with translations. Firstly, to facilitate the module, and to facilitate easier keeping track of things in general, we agreed on a new translated page structure - the language token should now be at the root of the page, rather than the end. So for example "tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/Mednafen/ES" now becomes ""tasvideos.org/ES/EmulatorResources/Mednafen". We're currently busy with moving existing translation pages over. As for the module: [module:listlanguages] should be used on all pages with translated versions, where it will provide links to translated pages. If placed on MovieRules, it will link to FR/MovieRules, ES/MovieRules, and so on, for any such page that exists and that is internally recognized as a language code and title (e.g. FR - Français , ES - Español, etc.) [module:listlanguages|istranslation=true] should be used on the translated versions of the pages, where it will provide a link back to the English version and to other languages. Put it on FR/MovieRules and it will link to MovieRules as well as ES/MovieRules, etc. If a language or a translated page doesn't show in this module when it should, contact me. For sample usage you can look at pages like Wiki: WelcomeToTASVideos or a translation of it where it already has been put to use With this, it should be much easier now to automatically link between different translations of a page, without all the manual upkeep that used to be required.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 9/18/2017 4:14 PM
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Cyorter
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feos wrote:
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! The site staff took some effort and now we can properly organize all our translations in a semi-automatic way!
Mothrayas wrote:
With some discussion with feos and some cooperation with Nach, I added a new wiki module for use with translations. Firstly, to facilitate the module, and to facilitate easier keeping track of things in general, we agreed on a new translated page structure - the language token should now be at the root of the page, rather than the end. So for example "tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/Mednafen/ES" now becomes ""tasvideos.org/ES/EmulatorResources/Mednafen". We're currently busy with moving existing translation pages over. As for the module: [module:listlanguages] should be used on all pages with translated versions, where it will provide links to translated pages. If placed on MovieRules, it will link to FR/MovieRules, ES/MovieRules, and so on, for any such page that exists and that is internally recognized as a language code and title (e.g. FR - Français , ES - Español, etc.) [module:listlanguages|istranslation=true] should be used on the translated versions of the pages, where it will provide a link back to the English version and to other languages. Put it on FR/MovieRules and it will link to MovieRules as well as ES/MovieRules, etc. If a language or a translated page doesn't show in this module when it should, contact me. For sample usage you can look at pages like Wiki: WelcomeToTASVideos or a translation of it where it already has been put to use With this, it should be much easier now to automatically link between different translations of a page, without all the manual upkeep that used to be required.
WOW! Amazing! Well, our progress in Spanish translating is going well, http://tasvideos.org/ArticleIndex/ES.html look at this, the red ones (obviously) are still WIP pages... aaand... well, with my friend (samural goroh), we are progressing in our translations with the goal "translate most pages possible" xD :p
So for example "tasvideos.org/EmulatorResources/Mednafen/ES" now becomes ""tasvideos.org/ES/EmulatorResources/Mednafen"
I HAVE TO TRANSLATE MEDNAFEN RITE NAOH (kidding xD).
Posted: 9/18/2017 6:10 PM
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feos
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Here's the guide. http://tasvideos.org/Translations.html The question is, how do we present the translation links? With no text at all around them? With a header above them? With simple bald text? Anything else?
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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:11 PM
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Noxxa
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feos wrote:
The question is, how do we present the translation links? With no text at all around them? With a header above them? With simple bald text? Anything else?
[20:10:19] <FluffyTheMoth> imo the best option is to have a small header with "this page in other languages" in the native language
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 9/18/2017 6:12 PM
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feos
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Yeah, my plan is that translators also translate the header. Just some people hate the header itself. And I find it quite useful.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 9/18/2017 6:13 PM
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Here, I hate the header.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 6:15 PM
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Noxxa
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I'm in favor of a small header (like !! size, not any larger). Any larger and it becomes too distracting.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 9/18/2017 6:38 PM
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I'm in favor for small header, as long as it doesn't get included in an eventual TOC. Also, I'd like to suggest to put the header in the module code, in order to automatize and avoid confusing discrepancies between different pages.
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Posted: 9/18/2017 9:02 PM
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Nach
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Regarding translated pages that involve rules, please add the following disclaimer translated into your language at the top of them: The English language version of these rules/guidelines supersedes all translated versions of these rules/guidelines. Translations of these rules/guidelines into other languages are provided for informational purposes only. I've already added this to the English version of the Site and Movie rules. Please add that to the translated versions and any other pages that are appropriate.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 3:03 AM
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>ZH | Chinese Isn't China HK? Like, yes I know you have the iso list but sites require the HK in it not the ZH from my time screwing around with sites and loading up different region versions. (I think only Wikipedia uses the ZH rule only) (Edit: Bleh, wrote K not H.)
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Posted: 9/19/2017 6:07 AM
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Noxxa
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Spikestuff wrote:
>ZK | Chinese Isn't China HK? Like, yes I know you have the iso list but sites require the HK in it not the ZK from my time screwing around with sites and loading up different region versions. (I think only Wikipedia uses the ZK rule only)
ZH (not ZK) is the ISO 639-1 code for the Chinese language (zhōngwén). HK is the domain code for Hong Kong, but is not related to any language.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Posted: 4/30/2018 10:56 PM
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Nach
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We recently did some overhauling to rule pages. A partial summary of that overhaul is mentioned here. I'd appreciate if translators can try to bring the improvements to the translated pages. Edit: Another partial summary is mentioned here.
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