You said you missed a key in 6, which key did you miss?
Near the end, in the room with the 3 blue vampire like creatures.
Michael Fried wrote:
Edit: In one of the rooms in level 6, you switched to the arrows to kill the last enemy. Are you sure it wouldn't have been faster to just kill them all with bombs, or just a few arrows first before you switched to bombs so you only need to switch to bombs once?
Well, yes. However, it is always hard judging how many bombs you will use and get. Since bombs are very important, i did not want to waste a bomb on just one enemy, especially in dungeon 6, where i am always short on bombs.
Michael Fried wrote:
Edit: I just watched it and I don't see what the problem is. You have enough keys.
I end up with one key. You need to enter dungeon nine with two keys, right?
Near the end, in the room with the 3 blue vampire like creatures.
Why did you skip that key?
I end up with one key. You need to enter dungeon nine with two keys, right?
I think you only need to enter level 9 with 1 key. By the way, if anyone hasn't voted for ALttP yet at GameFAQs, go vote now! It's extremely close so every vote counts.
So are you going back to get that key you missed?
Edit: Already did. :p It took me a while to decide, but i finaly went with ALttP
What??? You actually had to think about it???
Ok. I found out where the other missing key is. You need 2 keys to get the wand, not 1. Darn. Maybe I will go back and do the key glitch so I don't have to go out of my way in level 7 to get a key.
You could always just have negative keys for a few rooms in level 9. If that doesn't work, maybe you could ask David Wonn to discover some crazy glitch that lets you bypass locked doors.
So is this run still on? I was all looking forward to seeing a swordless Zelda run that didn't end in death, and then all discussion on it just sort of fizzled.
Err...Its on my to do list. I'll start it after I finish my mario warpless run. Well, maybe I will finish my bubble bobble run before that. But I'm still planning on doing it.
My first attempt at a swordless run (36:34) was rejected for inadequate optimization and poor pathing. I'm attempting to do a more highly optimized run at this time, and I'm pondering a choice of two different starting paths. The most obvious one is this:
*Power Bracelet
*Up+A
*Warp to upper right quadrant
*Down, right, up, right, right, up, get 100 Rupees
*Up+A
*Left, up, buy Blue Candle
*Left, left, get Bombs from Blue Octorok
*Left, down, right
*Level 3 - get Raft, Up+A, defeat Manhandla and get Triforce segment
*Left, up, left, burn bush, get 100 Rupees
*Right, right, up, up, buy Wooden Arrows
*Up, buy Enemy Bait
*Up+A
*Go to Level 1, get Bow, defeat Aquamentus and get Triforce segment
(...)
But I've recently considered another path, which may or may not be faster...
*Power Bracelet
*Up+A
*Warp to upper right quadrant
*Down, down, get 30 Rupees
*Down, down, down, right, right, buy Bombs
*Up+A
*Left, gamble 4 times (need 60+80+60 = 200 Rupees total, plus ammo)
*Up, buy Blue Candle
*Left, left, get more Bombs from Blue Octorok
*Up, up, buy Wooden Arrows
*Up, buy Enemy Bait
*Down, down, left, down, down, right
*Level 3 - get Raft, Up+A, defeat Manhandla and get Triforce segment
*Up+A
*Go to Level 1, get Bow, defeat Aquamentus and get Triforce segment
(...)
Which path do you think would be optimal? Any different ideas?
So go ahead and post in it ... ???
I was going to post something really rude about how I can't understand it when people act like ... whatever you are acting like. But then I realized that would be rude, so I'll just say what I really mean to say: if there's a thread about what you want to talk about, go ahead and post in it. (Especially if it's already been suggested nicely that you do so.) It's that simple.
Hey Josh. First of all I'd like to say I'm glad you're not giving up on this run.
Josh wrote:
I'm pondering a choice of two different starting paths. The most obvious one is this:
*Power Bracelet
*Up+A
*Warp to upper right quadrant
*Down, right, up, right, right, up, get 100 Rupees
Getting the power bracelet and 100 rupies way up northeast stuck out to me as an unnecessarily long way to start out the run. I've reached Gannon swordless on a console before, but I didn't need to get the Power Bracelet early and I don't see why you should. Have you considered the following basic route?
*Go northeast and get 30 rupies from an Armos secret.
*Up+A
*Buy bombs for 20
*Beat level 1 (edit: 3?)
edit: Realizing how long this topic is, I figured it might be better to go back and read some posts. Now I see Bob Whoops already assumed this route. So... isn't it faster?
Getting the power bracelet and 100 rupies way up northeast stuck out to me as an unnecessarily long way to start out the run. I've reached Gannon swordless on a console before, but I didn't need to get the Power Bracelet early and I don't see why you should. Have you considered the following basic route?
*Go northeast and get 30 rupies from an Armos secret.
*Up+A
*Buy bombs for 20
*Beat level 1 (edit: 3?)
Well, the 30-Rupee secret beneath the Armos is 10 screens away from the start. (Up, right, up, right, right, right, right, right, up, up). The Power Bracelet is indeed longer, around 20 screens. So your route might well be faster. On the other hand, it needs to be taken into account whether there are other areas that the Power Bracelet could be used to save time. Levels 2, 5, and 6 are all close to warp points, so this could help.
I'll have to run a couple of experiments to see how this turns out.
So go ahead and post in it ... ???
I was going to post something really rude about how I can't understand it when people act like ... whatever you are acting like. But then I realized that would be rude, so I'll just say what I really mean to say: if there's a thread about what you want to talk about, go ahead and post in it. (Especially if it's already been suggested nicely that you do so.) It's that simple.
On a lot of message boards, the administrators get really mad at people who post in topics that hadn't been posted in for more than a week or two. I'm still not quite sure why.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
I've created a work-in-progress video that gets the 30 Rupees from the Armos (as suggested by Hanzou), then uses Up+A, then buys Bombs from the closest shop, then clears Level 3 using just the Bombs. I manipulated the enemy drops so that I finish the level with 7 Bombs and have an adequate supply throughout.
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1392/swordless-wip001.fcm
Unlike the previous, rejected run, this one takes damage to save time. I tried to avoid any dead spots; in a few areas where brief waits were unavoidable (e.g. waiting for Bombs to materialize so that they could be picked up), I had Link walk slowly by using the directional pad every other frame. IMO, that looks better than just standing there for a while.
Comments and constructive criticism are welcome.
So go ahead and post in it ... ???
I was going to post something really rude about how I can't understand it when people act like ... whatever you are acting like. But then I realized that would be rude, so I'll just say what I really mean to say: if there's a thread about what you want to talk about, go ahead and post in it. (Especially if it's already been suggested nicely that you do so.) It's that simple.
Changed xebra? Bull!
Nitrogenesis wrote:
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Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Changed enough that I won't respond in kind to your post with an equally inflammatory one. You are once again offensive. Though it doesn't surprise me any more, I wish you wouldn't be that way.
WIP looks good most of the way up to level 3, because you managed to fit some good damage boosts in there.
A couple comments: I don't fully understand how drops work in this game, but I don't think you should have stopped to kill the Octorok if you can get bombs from red Darknuts. Also, why did you kill some Zols when you could have walked right past them?
Keep up the good work!
A couple comments: I don't fully understand how drops work in this game, but I don't think you should have stopped to kill the Octorok if you can get bombs from red Darknuts. Also, why did you kill some Zols when you could have walked right past them?
I re-watched the run, and you may have a point about the Bomb drop. Theoretically, if I could still get the Darknuts to leave Bombs, then I could shave a second or two off by not waiting for the overworld drop before coming in. However, that would mean finishing with only 4 Bombs instead of 7, and this would have to be compensated for later on.
As for the Zols, clearing that room is needed to win a Key. I kill four of the five Zols with a single Bomb on the first pass (on the way to the Raft), and the fifth Zol on the second pass (on the way to the Triforce). The reason I did this in two passes is that I don't have to wander around to kill the last Zol and get the Key, as I would if I did it all at once. You don't see the Key because I'm walking over it the moment it appears, but watch the Key counter at the top as I bomb the last Zol and walk through the middle of the room.
Changed enough that I won't respond in kind to your post with an equally inflammatory one. You are once again offensive. Though it doesn't surprise me any more, I wish you wouldn't be that way.
Did you just say "I know you are but what am I?"
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
