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Posted: 5/3/2004 10:13 PM
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Michael_Fried
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In both Moon Lander and Simon, I could have scored much higher if I wanted to, but I only stopped because the games are boring. I'd like to see someone beat my new Jail Break score. I owned everyone pretty badly once I found out the glitch.
Posted: 5/3/2004 10:16 PM
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Bob_Whoops
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Yeah, both games were boring. I just did enough in simon to beat the other guy.
Posted: 5/3/2004 10:20 PM
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Deviance
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After finding the glitch, I never wanted to play that game again. :|
Posted: 5/3/2004 10:21 PM
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Bob_Whoops
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What is it?
Posted: 5/3/2004 10:24 PM
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Deviance
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I revealed it in this topic, look back a few posts.
Posted: 5/3/2004 10:57 PM
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Michael_Fried
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I bet no one knows how I got 579 :) Maybe I should get over 1000 just to show off. I could probably even get 10000 if I wanted to.
Posted: 5/3/2004 11:01 PM
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Michael_Fried
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I just noticed I'm down to being champion of only 2 games :( At least I'll be holding on to the records of the games I am champion of. I have a perfect score in Frogger and I have a feeling no one will figure out what I did in Jail Break. Edit: Everyone go check out my new Jail Break score. 1463!!! Do you think that's enough to convince people that the game is glitchy?
Posted: 5/4/2004 12:09 AM
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Deviance
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frogger is glitchy as well ;)
Posted: 5/4/2004 12:10 AM
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Sjoerd
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Deviance wrote:
I see you've become the Target champion. Now 5 members of this forum hold ZHQ arcade titles. :)
Make that 6 (though I'm more of a lurker here). Zoo keeper is too addicting... :-P
Deviance wrote:
Edit: maybe this topic should be split, the LoZ thread is getting quite big.
Sounds like a good idea.
Posted: 5/4/2004 12:18 AM
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Bob_Whoops
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You missed my post. I guess its 7 now!
Posted: 5/4/2004 12:38 AM
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Michael_Fried
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How is Frogger glitchy?
Posted: 5/4/2004 12:40 AM
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Deviance
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I found a glitch that lets you get the 100 pt target on the far left quickly, but it isn't easy to do.
Posted: 5/11/2004 9:42 PM
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Spider-Waffle
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I was wondering why Fried's way of killing Ganon wasn't used in the 26:56 run, it's four less sword hits, I don't know how this works but it's quite a bit faster.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Posted: 5/11/2004 10:04 PM
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Bob_Whoops
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Michael had a better sword for the fight.
Posted: 5/18/2004 8:59 PM
Post subject: Cheated ?
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Trax
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The point was probably debated earlier in the subject, but anyway... I'm quite sure there's either a big glitch in Zelda 1 or it's a cheat, which is quite unlikely, but to my eye, it seems like cheating... In the AVI video of sleepzteam, at exactly 5m22s17f, Link gets hit by Gleeok. At this point, he has one heart left. No matter if Gleeok damages by one heart or half a heart, Link should have either half a heart left, or been killed right away, which is not the case. Anyone has an explanation for this ? Bonus question : can anyone tell me where I can find the previous time attack record for Zelda 1 ?
Posted: 5/18/2004 9:06 PM
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Deviance
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you can get hit by Gleeok sometimes and he won't take any damage from you. The same thing happened in my speedrun without using savestates. Seems to happen mostly when you are standing close to him.
Bonus question : can anyone tell me where I can find the previous time attack record for Zelda 1 ?
you need the video or just the time?
Posted: 5/18/2004 9:48 PM
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Trax
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The video... Well, the official time too...
Posted: 5/18/2004 10:27 PM
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4matsy
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Glitch, I think. Direct contact with Gleeok seems to do a random amount of damage between 0 and 1 hearts. o_O EDIT: D'oh! Read page 21 thinking it was the last page of the thread. :p
Posted: 5/18/2004 10:45 PM
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fuwafuwa
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Trax wrote:
The video... Well, the official time too...
i've still got that video, although i don't have anywhere i can host it (it's 87mb large)... the time from movie start to movie stop is 31:29; that's from the appearance of the title screen to the moment link touches zelda. in the course of the game, mfried does the levels in their proper order, as well as picking up 10 hearts and the master sword.. he also has 13088 rerecords.
Posted: 5/18/2004 10:54 PM
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Deviance
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mfried does the levels in their proper order
he doesn't, the route was the main difference between the two videos.
as well as picking up 10 hearts and the master sword..
There is no Master Sword in LoZ.
Posted: 5/19/2004 7:18 AM
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Yggdrasil
Joined: 4/30/2004
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Deviance wrote:
as well as picking up 10 hearts and the master sword..
There is no Master Sword in LoZ.
OK I understand that's a gannon-ban, however... do we really need to quabble over semantics. The magical, white, and wooden swords are all/can all be used in these runs. I personally don't think any more work is needed on this unless some glitch can be found to bypass the need for ALL 8 triforce pieces in either quest.
Posted: 5/19/2004 8:36 AM
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Boco
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Yggdrasil wrote:
wooden sword
As long as we're being hyper-technical, it's not the wood sword. It's just the sword.
someone is out there who will like you. take off your mask so they can find you faster. I support the new Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun.
Posted: 6/26/2004 4:47 PM
Post subject: My first LoZ Speed
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TSA
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http://planetquake.com/sda/other/zelda1.html Other one and an AoL one are coming soon.
Posted: 6/26/2004 5:25 PM
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Boco
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I'm especially looking forward to your AoL run because that's the Zelda game I'm most familiar with.. ^_^ After all, it IS the best in the series..
someone is out there who will like you. take off your mask so they can find you faster. I support the new Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun.
Posted: 6/27/2004 3:57 AM
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Ramzi
Joined: 3/25/2004
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I thought it was great. It's amazing how much you have to have memorized. I'm sure most people who watch won't even realize the amount of money, bomb, and key management. You had many unneeded item changes. Reducing those could probably save some time. Also, setting the bomb further from the wall. I had this idea that touching the triforce piece with many hearts missing was a bad thing because it takes longer to refill. From what I observed in your video, however, the time doesn't change. There's a little song that needs to play, and the hearts are filled before that song is over. I think after you defeated the Manhandla you got a fairy thinking it would save time, but it doesn't. I believe you once told me that you only use bombs in Level 6. In this video, it was quite the contrary. You also didn't use many bombs on the blue darknuts. Why is this? In one fight with the blue darknuts, you switched from bombs to the boomerang, which I thought was silly. Keep the bombs, just in case you get lucky and they all get close together. And you did get the boomerang. I see why... Freezing baddies and walking through them. Do you think this is a necessary time saver though? You probably lose more time switching to it than you save by having it. You killed a poor keese in level 9 with a diagonal boomerang throw. How heartless of you you cruel sick bastard. He wasn't even near the stairs. HE WASN'T EVEN NEAR THE STAIRS. After you purchased everything that was necessary, it still seemed that you went out of your way to collect rupee drops. Is that just a bad habit, or did you have a reason. I saw that you used the arrows more than required, but not enough to warrant that kind of rupee collection. I think you had like 7 rupees after you bought the bait, which is more than enough to complete the game. When you beat the game though, you had forty-some rupees. Also, you spent a lot of time walking across the screen to get a heart and walk back. I understand the necessity for hearts in getting the third sword, but after that, they're only for convenience. You had several remaining hearts when you finished. Is life a worry for you, particularly in dealing with the final patras and Ganon? Lastly, Ganon. You were the one who told me about the techique to kill Ganon quickly for the emulator run. When I played through Zelda 1 a few days ago, I noticed it didn't work for me. So I wanted to see your video to see how you do it. And you didn't do it. Is it hard to pull off, or what? I like your route choice. I liked this video. There was a certain thrill of watching a real video as opposed to the emulated one. For me, the planning that went into our 27 minute video was the real accomplishment. But in a real video, I get to see your fighting techniques, and split second decisions. And it made me feel that maybe I could play the game.
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