Post subject: Nintendo Creators Program is shutting down.
EZGames69
He/They
Publisher, Reviewer, Expert player (3968)
Joined: 5/29/2017
Posts: 2708
Location: Michigan
From Polygon's article, Nintendo will shut down their controversial content program at the end of December, (and replaced with more lenient guidelines.) Nintendo of Japan's annoucement and Nintendo of America's annoucement. The idea of the system was to let Nintendo take about 40% of advertising revenue for gameplay of nintendo games. Essentially having a royalty fee. With the system coming to a close, Nintendo is now saying they welcome creators to make content with their games an add "creative input". Now in the case where no "creative input" is added, nintendo said this:
We encourage you to create videos that include your creative input and commentary. Videos and images that contain mere copies of Nintendo Game Content without creative input or commentary are not permitted. You may, however, post gameplay videos and screenshots using Nintendo system features, such as the Capture Button on Nintendo Switch, without additional input or commentary.
This could be troublesome for people that do TASes, while it can be argued that superhuman gameplay of these games can be seen as the "creative input", it is objectively just gameplay footage without any commentary like a let's play or even a speedrun would have. Although is very easy to tell the difference between a TAS and a Longplay, in the eyes of Nintendo, they may not know the difference. So what are some thoughts you might have about this? Could this have a positive or negative effect on the site? Do you think Nintendo is doing enough to become more open to online content?
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Post subject: Re: Nintendo Creators Program is shutting down.
Judge, Skilled player (1289)
Joined: 9/12/2016
Posts: 1645
Location: Italy
EZGames69 wrote:
Now in the case where no "creative input" is added, nintendo said this:
We encourage you to create videos that include your creative input and commentary. Videos and images that contain mere copies of Nintendo Game Content without creative input or commentary are not permitted. You may, however, post gameplay videos and screenshots using Nintendo system features, such as the Capture Button on Nintendo Switch, without additional input or commentary.
This could be troublesome for people that do TASes, while it can be argued that superhuman gameplay of these games can be seen as the "creative input", it is objectively just gameplay footage without any commentary like a let's play or even a speedrun would have. Although is very easy to tell the difference between a TAS and a Longplay, in the eyes of Nintendo, they may not know the difference.
From what I can understand, there would be no problems for TASing in general, as it is considerable as a kind of play with its own creative input. However, it could be a problem in case Nintendo requires the gameplay video to be specifically recorded with official "Nintendo system features", as TASing is necessarily played through emulators. By the way, there's something I think is more likely to cause problems, specifically for videos of ROM hacks and bootlegs (bold mine):
A11: Examples of unlawful, infringing, or inappropriate content include, but are not limited to, content that incorporates Nintendo intellectual property and:
  • Violates applicable laws;
  • Infringes the intellectual property rights of Nintendo; and/or
  • Features pirated Nintendo software.
my personal page - my YouTube channel - my GitHub - my Discord: thunderaxe31 <Masterjun> if you look at the "NES" in a weird angle, it actually clearly says "GBA"
Spikestuff
They/Them
Editor, Publisher, Expert player (2297)
Joined: 10/12/2011
Posts: 6337
Location: The land down under.
Title is a bit off for summarisation. It's not "shutting down" it's being "revised" or "replaced by more relaxed guidelines". You can have more of a read about it thanks to the version that Nintendo Japan (aka HQ) wrote about it. Seeing as you wrote what Nintendo America wrote whilst providing Japan's.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
Disables Comments and Ratings for the YouTube account. Something better for yourself and also others.
Post subject: Re: Nintendo Creators Program is shutting down.
Banned User, Former player
Joined: 3/10/2004
Posts: 7698
Location: Finland
ThunderAxe31 wrote:
From what I can understand, there would be no problems for TASing in general, as it is considerable as a kind of play with its own creative input.
I believe that by "creative input" they mean adding your own content to the video, such as verbal commentary, expressing your opinions, splicing the gameplay footage with other unrelated (preferably original) footage, and so on and so forth. I doubt that by "creative input" they mean "playing the game in an unusual or special manner". It's not that kind of "input" (ie. button presses used to control the game. I highly, highly doubt they mean that with the word "input".) They explicitly allow so-called Let's Play videos, but from the context I believe that what they mean is the sort of Let's Play video where the player is speaking and commenting while playing (ie. providing additional original material, in the form of verbal commentary). While it's not 100% clear, I think that it's not a permission to simply post pure gameplay footage with no additional content. (It would be nice if they made that a lot clearer.)
Player (170)
Joined: 7/1/2016
Posts: 263
It's not clear if they gonna delete game play videos without creative input or don't allow to monetize them. I hope they just don't allow to monetize them edit: by reading some stuff and watching some videos it feels like this is the deal of more modern games. Like Breath of the Wild or Mario Maker etc. Like Nintendo didn't really like if whole playtrough of Breath of the Wild are uploaded on youtube and then many people just watch that instead of buying switch and copy of the game. It looks pretty logical to me. It doesn't feel like that Nintendo gonna annihilate all those longplays, tases, playtroughs of retro games. But i guess we will see what gonna happen LUL
Post subject: Re: Nintendo Creators Program is shutting down.
Judge, Skilled player (1289)
Joined: 9/12/2016
Posts: 1645
Location: Italy
Warp wrote:
I believe that by "creative input" they mean adding your own content to the video, such as verbal commentary, expressing your opinions, splicing the gameplay footage with other unrelated (preferably original) footage, and so on and so forth.
Makes sense but sounds a bit too extreme, because it would mean that bare gameplay videos wouldn't be permitted.
my personal page - my YouTube channel - my GitHub - my Discord: thunderaxe31 <Masterjun> if you look at the "NES" in a weird angle, it actually clearly says "GBA"
RankoHoshino
She/Her
Joined: 8/23/2011
Posts: 2
There's really nothing to worry about now. I upload direct feeds on Splatoon 2 gameplay and they stopped receiving content ID matches. Commentary won't be necessary, so the usual TAS uploads should be fine on YouTube as well.
Post subject: I'll keep adding commentary for my part...
Moderator, Senior Ambassador, Experienced player (898)
Joined: 9/14/2008
Posts: 1007
For my part I'm providing commentary (sometimes bad commentary) on console verification videos. The last few have not been flagged. I'm trying to work through the backlog at a rate of one per week at https://YouTube.com/dwangoAC so we'll see how things progress there.
I was laid off in May 2023 and could use support via Patreon or onetime donations as I work on TASBot Re: and TASBot HD. I'm dwangoAC, part of the senior staff of TASVideos as the Senior Ambassador and BDFL of the TASBot community; I post TAS content on YouTube.com/dwangoAC based on livestreams from Twitch.tv/dwangoAC.
XTREMAL93
He/Him
Active player (388)
Joined: 1/6/2012
Posts: 579
Location: Azerbaijan, Baku
Got Copyright Claim from Label Worx On behalf of: Drug Boulevard to Double Dragon Longplay video for using audio Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari - Twin Dragons Theme (Original Mix) - Kazuo Sawa Link to video Will dispute it)
Banned User, Former player
Joined: 3/10/2004
Posts: 7698
Location: Finland
XTREMAL93 wrote:
for using audio Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari - Twin Dragons Theme (Original Mix) - Kazuo Sawa Will dispute it)
When it comes to music, I doubt you'll have any chance. Music has special extra copyright protection (for some reason).
XTREMAL93
He/Him
Active player (388)
Joined: 1/6/2012
Posts: 579
Location: Azerbaijan, Baku
Clear )
XTREMAL93
He/Him
Active player (388)
Joined: 1/6/2012
Posts: 579
Location: Azerbaijan, Baku
Most of copyright claims are fake which was made by frauds. I successfully disputed them referring to Nintendo and Sega Content Guidelines. Here is the links: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/networkservice_guideline/en/index.html https://www.sega.co.jp/en/streaming_guideline/index.html