Posted: 9/11/2019 9:07 PM
Post subject: [VBA] Should we stop accepting VBA movies for GB/C
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NOTE: This post is only focused on GB/C movies, not GBA movies. VBA has become very outdated when compared to the other GB/C emulators. The last submission/publication that used VBA for GB/C is [3061] GBC Lucky Luke: Desperado Train by TheKDX7 in 24:46.84. The author did mention this was their last VBA movie and would be moving on to bizhawk after this. It doesn’t seem like at this point that VBA will be used for anything GB/C related, would it make sense to stop accepting GB/C submissions for VBA?
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Posted: 9/11/2019 9:39 PM
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Bizhawk and lsnes both provide better alternatives for GB/C games, and between the two, provide an adequate user experience on any modern operating system. And both are far more accurate. Let's also consider SGB. Both lsnes and Bizhawk provide better emulation for that one too. Unfortunately it's not so easy to programatically disallow .vbm files conditionally for certain platforms. So either we need to feel like we are ready to disallow VBA for GBA games, or we need it to be a rule change not a software change
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Posted: 9/11/2019 9:45 PM
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The only way I can see us dropping VBA entirely is if we could port mGBA (or another decent GBA emulator) into lsnes or something simmilar.
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Posted: 9/12/2019 10:05 AM
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I think endrift wanted to add TAS features to stand-alone mGBA at some point..
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Posted: 9/12/2019 1:49 PM
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MUGG wrote:
I think endrift wanted to add TAS features to stand-alone mGBA at some point..
I’d be interested in seeing this actually. But I wonder if it would be enough to ban VBA, doesn’t mGBA only work on Ubuntu linux?
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Posted: 9/12/2019 2:28 PM
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Posted: 9/12/2019 4:09 PM
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https://mgba.io/timeline.html It says to add TAS features in mid 2020. But I'm not sure how seriously endrift will do it. And Bizhawk, quite frankly, has all the features you could ever ask for. There is not really a reason you'd use stand-alone mgba over Bizhawk. Why does there have to be 2 choices for a system to be able to drop VBA?
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Posted: 9/12/2019 4:13 PM
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MUGG wrote:
And Bizhawk, quite frankly, has all the features you could ever ask for. There is not really a reason you'd use stand-alone mgba over Bizhawk. Why does there have to be 2 choices for a system to be able to drop VBA?
There does not necessarily have to be multiple choices, but we want to make sure that the available options are accessible to as many people as possible. BizHawk does not run well on Linux (if at all), so Linux users ideally would have an alternative that they could use. (This is also a reason why, for instance, Gens-rr is still up as a supported emulator, but that's another discussion)
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