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Hello to all fans Doom Troopers and speedruns!
Present to you my new TAS of this game on the Genesis platform!
This TAS was 34 seconds faster than my previous attempt #6503: Juarez's Genesis Doom Troopers: Mutant Chronicles in 06:44.25!
I killed second boss in one session and used new tricks!
Thank you all for watching! Hope you enjoyed it! Waiting for your ratings!
P.S. Special thanks to r57shell!
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Maru: While this is a considerable improvement over your previous effort, this is still not quite at the standard of optimization that we typically accept. Details are provided in the thread. Please take our advice seriously and consider switching to BizHawk and using TAStudio for 2 player TASes. It may work better for you and help you make better movies. Rejecting.

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Posted: 9/14/2019 11:37 AM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #6512: Juarez's Genesis Doom Troopers: Mutant Chronicles "2 players" in 06:10.18
Posted: 9/14/2019 11:58 AM
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Looks quite nice, voting Yes. Just unsure if the shots at the final boss are missing, if that's intentional.
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Posted: 9/14/2019 12:46 PM
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How does the first 2 levels compare to the wip i gave you? Also I can probably get this movie to sync on bizhawk if you want, I was able to get it to work last time.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Posted: 9/15/2019 8:15 AM
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Much better now. The only thing in my mind is: do you really need all this weapon in the last stage?
Posted: 9/15/2019 8:25 AM
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Thanks for improvements. Yes vote!
Posted: 9/15/2019 5:21 PM
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just doing the first few levels and there is still some issues with optimization. I saved 41 frames up until the 2nd boss (this WIP doesnt play that boss because of a desync) http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/57970898848009883 one of the things I dont understand is how you started off your 3rd stage (after the boss). in the previous movie you took this route: https://youtu.be/SvD4clnBfeY?t=118 this is actually faster than the route you took here: https://youtu.be/KgIiNy8uxAg?t=118 notice how at the end of the new movie, you hit a wall and slow down. I am not sure why you took this route as the previous method you did was just fine.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Posted: 9/17/2019 2:33 AM
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feos, Where shots at the final boss are missing?
Posted: 9/17/2019 2:39 AM
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r57shell, 6 shots in cross, 20 shots in boss
Posted: 9/17/2019 2:39 AM
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XTREMAL93, Thanks!
Posted: 9/17/2019 2:49 AM
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EZGames69, In the first version I had to climb the object, in the second version is freely jumped on the object. You saved 41 frames up until the 2nd boss - in what places exactly? How you saved if you don't used the warps?
Posted: 9/17/2019 3:02 AM
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I did use warps. I used your inputs and put them into bizhawk, then I made edits to make movement faster. Also I linked YouTube timecodes for one area I saved time in. Please run the movie file in bizhawk 2.3.1 to watch it if you can. If someone wants to provide a comparison encode too that would be nice.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Posted: 9/17/2019 3:47 AM
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EZGames69, Sorry, man! My mistake. I saw old file. Why you don't edit full movie?
Posted: 9/17/2019 3:49 AM
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Ive already mentioned why, I got different rng on the 2nd boss, and I didn’t feel like trying to get it to work again.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Posted: 9/17/2019 5:22 AM
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EZGames69, What is required of me? New TAS? I do not want and will not do TAS for this game again.
Posted: 9/17/2019 5:53 AM
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Juarez wrote:
What is required of me? New TAS? I do not want and will not do TAS for this game again.
You're free to do what you want, TASing should be done for fun. But there are no guarantees that this submission will get accepted, unless someone uploads an improved movie that syncs.
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Posted: 9/17/2019 8:45 AM
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Juarez wrote:
r57shell, 6 shots in cross, 20 shots in boss
It doesn't tell me anything. I don't know damage of weapons, their properties. Also I don't know boss hp, and so on.
Posted: 9/17/2019 5:55 PM
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/58015889242940241 here's a change in the movie file that syncs to the end, it only includes the improvements done in the first 3 non boss stages, the stage before the 2nd boss was unchanged, as I believe rng changes in that stage. so it's only 18 frames improvement. (discounting 5 frames difference in emulation)
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Posted: 9/18/2019 2:57 AM
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r57shell, 1 shot of power-up weapon is over 2 shots of default weapon
Posted: 9/27/2019 7:12 PM
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