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Improvements from the last run: (for who read the other submission text)

I will no longer try to imrprove this game.
better motaro telepot strategy and better kahn fight with 100% combo
p2 side could possibly have different AI but i will not test it, i'm done with this version.
This is a speed oriented TAS for MK3.
Better manipulation in all fights
HPT is partially used in MOTARO, he always pushes back when getting punched so a wall is needed to execute the strategy.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: <Put the emulator name and version here>
  • Complete single-player mode in Very Hard difficulty, Master tower.
  • Do it in fastest time possible.
  • Removes sound to minimize loading and victory fanfares.

Comments

I was fiddling with the mk3 shortest round combo, which is a Kabal infinite, but I found it too finicky to execute in most characters. I decided to train my TASing skill in mk3 instead by optimizing the RTA strategies in TAS settings. What I found out however was that the RTA strategy could actually be faster than the combo I saw, but only if I could manipulate the enemies to eat all my punches instead with the infamous HPT.

What is the High Punch Trick?

Punches in the classic mk series can be chained a few times to combo. In mk3, you can combo four standing punches of any kind and the game will prevent you from punching further by making the opponent stumble into a pushback animation. If the fourth punch didn't combo, there would be no pushback. RTA runners abuse this by delaying their punches in a very specific pattern to let enemies out of hitstun for a very brief moment and punch the enemy when it's just trying to fight back. However, some enemies have very finnicky hitboxes which make this strategy inconsistent for RTA. In TAS settings, I discovered they just need to be manipulated into having only 1 frame of recovery out of hitstun in order to use the HPT. Some enemies would still be able to get out, but because the CPU reads inputs, they can actually be manipulated by doing commands inside the attacks, even if those commands do NOT RESULT IN ANY ACTIONS!
High Punch is preferable to Low Punch as it causes more damage, but in a few cases a LP could be thrown there just to keep the still in the manipulated pattern.
Based on Innarik's MK3 WR, it looks like you can't do it in RTA against Sindel, Nightwolf, Sub-Zero, Stryker and Liu Kang. I believe Kano too, even though in RTA they could use LP instead for him.
 

How many moves does it take to kill someone in mk3?

I don't have damage values but it takes:
21 LP in mk3, 16 HP (one of them could be changed into a LP and would still be),7 High Kicks,8 Low Kicks ,7 Jump Kicks , 6 Uppercuts
Conclusion: best strategy would be to punch as much as you can and do a big ender to finish the round. The first round would ideally always be finished with uppercuts, but uppercuts don't combo at all so it's up to RNG to save the day in order to use this strategy. HKs and autocombos are the next best thing, and they combo from the pushback of four punches. In ROUND1, it's just doing the best finisher possible, but in ROUND2, I tested if i could activate the WIN message faster by which moves, and the main priority seems to kill the enemy initially faster but with less hitstun possible. Seems weird because the juggles actually allow the WIN message to come earlier while hitstun doesn't. Low hitstun moves and sweeps were also the possibilities for getting the WIN message earlier after the FINISH HIM message.
Uppercuts have faster recovery when used as ROUND2 finishers as well.

Character choice

Shang Tsung morphs into other characters so i tried other strategies with him with other chars and kabal was the most efficient for shao kahn.
Also faster selection.

Other comments

Screenshot: something with kabal
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [4733] SNES Mortal Kombat 3 by KusogeMan in 04:51.27