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"Unlike most 2D Mario games, Super Mario Bros. Special didn't have any warps, and this was faithfully kept in this romhack. This means that every level has to be completed." A quote from the movie page of the newly published TAS of this hack.
But that's not true. In fact, not every level has to be completed, because you can freely choose a starting world in the title screen.
The goal of my TAS is clear: fastest completion. The real any% run of this hack should start at World 8.
This is not cheating, because it's simply allowed by the hack creator (Frantik). He stated it in "Readme.txt": "There are two special features accessible from the main title screen: Press B to select the starting world..."
After saving the princess, you'll get the very same ending text & credits. I see no reason not to use it in an any% TAS.
Other than that, it's just an ordinary SMB hack TAS.
Frankly, it's not my favourite hack, and far from my favourite TAS. But to me, if this hack is allowed to be published on this site, it deserves a real any% run.

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HappyLee has been banned from TASVideos for 3 months for repeated disruptive behavior in this submission's thread. Given the author's arguments and accusations, I would like to summarize and explain the situation from a rules and judgement perspective.
First, I must clarify up front that the decision made for this run is mostly independent of HappyLee's temporary ban, in that the ban only affects one possible outcome, and only temporarily. While it is true that the run would have been cancelled or rejected had his ban been indefinite, the defining factor behind this decision is based entirely off of the nature of the TAS itself. On TASVideos, we occasionally receive submissions that require us to re-evaluate our MovieRules. This is in no way a bad thing, this is something that we want as staff. For myself especially as Senior Judge, I want nothing more than to ensure our rules are clear, readable, understandable, and malleable. If the community decides that there needs to be a change, there will be a change. This has been happening quite often lately, and I'm proud of the work we have all done as a community to make things easier and more reasonable, from the TAS authors who make runs that challenge the rules to the community members who discuss them and come to a consensus.
This was, in a way, one of those submissions. It found a weakness in the rules, and that weakness was corrected. However, unlike other submissions that lead to edits of the rules, this one found a weakness of omission and not a weakness of complication. The usage of this form of level selection as a time saving technique has never been allowed on TASVideos, and in my opinion it's unlikely that it ever will be. I don't believe any speedrunning community, RTA included, would ever count skipping 87.5% of a game through a level selection system as a legitimate strategy for an any% speedrun. Keep in mind, however, that this is an opinion and not a firm statement. There is a possibility the overall community's thoughts on this could change in the future, and we will change accordingly to fit the desires of the community.
That being said, there are ways in which this run could have been treated differently, and I'd like to go over three of the more notable ones.
The first is that this could be considered an individual level TAS. These are normally not allowed as they are incomplete runs, but we have accepted them in the past, whether it was because of the site's past focus on pure entertainment showcases, the game presenting itself as disconnected levels or level sets or, um, through a former staff member's flagrant abuse of power. That last one should never have happened and will never happen again, but I feel it should be mentioned for accountability purposes and to illustrate that individual level TASes have been frowned upon since the very beginning of the site.
In cases where we accept individual level TASes, we have a clause in the rules that handles how to treat these runs, namely that they will always be obsoleted by full game runs of their respective games, due to what we call "full content overlap". That is, the entirety of an individual level run will be contained in a full game run, so there is no need to have both published alongside each other. Were someone to create and submit a full run of Biker Mice From Mars, it would obsolete the "final round" TAS linked above. For this run, though, the full game run already exists and has been published. so even if we determined this run to be a valid individual level run, we still cannot accept it. Of course, since this is an SMB1 ROM hack, it is following SMB1's presentation of a long series of connected stages, and as such any usage of the title screen level select is explicitly skipping required content. This is confirmed further by the published run's statement that there are no warp zones, meaning all worlds and levels are normally required to be played. In short, we have to rule out this run being acceptable as an individual level.
Another possibility is that the input itself could be salvageable outside of being published. If this is a strict improvement to the published run's World 8, perhaps the two runs could be spliced together as a compromise solution. This presents a (thankfully) much simpler to describe set of problems, namely that this run and the published run cannot be adequately compared. Any improvement that this run contains would need to be recontextualized in the full game run, as conditions between the two could be completely different due to the level select. Notably, the full game run is fully powered up through World 8 while this run remains small Mario, which leads to this run actually being slower overall as it needs to wait for a piranha plant in 8-4 that the full game run can just kill, so there's no real compromise solution here either.
The final possibility is to accept the run as a new branch altogether, putting it in Alternative or Playground. Alternative is clearly ruled out by the community reaction, with the run receiving a wealth of No votes. PG, on the other hand, was quite literally made to support runs like this. There is a major problem with this option, though: The run was submitted as an any% run of the hack. As such, without any changes, it does not qualify for Playground. Placing it there would require us to change the run and treat it as something else. Not only is this going against HappyLee's original intention for the run, but given his temporary ban, he is unable to make any statements regarding how the run is presented. We should not, under any circumstances, make any changes to an author's work without their explicit consent, so as of right now we will continue to treat this run as HappyLee submitted it, which means it cannot currently be placed in Playground. However, it is still an option for the future, once HappyLee returns and is able to publicly consent to it.
I believe that's everything I would like to address. If anyone has any questions about how this submission was handled from a judgement and rules perspective, feel free to ask me directly. If need be, I will continue to update this judgement with further notes and clarifications to ensure that my thoughts and actions are understood and not misinterpreted.


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Can we at least agree on these things? 1. This TAS doesn't use any password. No cheating. World selection is added by the hack creator and written in the manual (readme.txt). 2. The hack creator allows starting from World 8. Worlds 1-7 are optional for getting true ending in this hack. 3. There's no rule in our current Wiki: MovieRules that says a TAS has to start from the very first level of the game, or level select should be banned. 4. As a reference, SMB "Both Quests" RTA allows pushing button B to select a world. Even the best SMB speedrunners use it to start at World 8 for the second quest.
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HappyLee wrote:
Can we at least agree on these things? 1. This TAS doesn't use any password. No cheating. World selection is added by the hack creator and written in the manual (readme.txt). 2. The hack creator allows starting from World 8. Worlds 1-7 are optional for getting true ending in this hack. 3. There's no rule in our current Wiki: MovieRules that says a TAS has to start from the very first level of the game, or level select should be banned. 4. As a reference, SMB "Both Quests" RTA allows pushing button B to select a world. Even the best SMB speedrunners use it to start at World 8 for the second quest.
1. Yes. 2. Yes, but that doesn't mean first sevens levels are "optional". The hack creator doesn't make rules for any leaderboards or this site. 3. No, there is a rule that says levels must not be skipped. And also it must be common sense. 4. You have dismissed more relevant examples, but want to compare to a run that only uses the level select only after beating all the stages?
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Samsara wrote:
It would mean any game with a level select system, whether it be a password or pressing a button at the title screen, could have its any% run obsoleted through usage of that level select. No speedrunning community, TAS or RTA, should be allowing this universally. We never have, we most likely never will.
Yes there are many games where you can use password at the title screen to directly skip to the final boss, which shouldn't be accepted as any% run.
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HappyLee wrote:
Can we at least agree on these things? 1. This TAS doesn't use any password. No cheating. World selection is added by the hack creator and written in the manual (readme.txt).
This is irrelevant, as I have said many times before. It doesn't have to be a password or a cheat, and it doesn't have to be hidden in the game for people to find on their own. It is still a level select feature.
2. The hack creator allows starting from World 8. Worlds 1-7 are optional for getting true ending in this hack.
Once again, this is irrelevant. Any game with a level select feature "allows" starting from whatever world you want to get to the ending. That doesn't mean we would allow that universally.
3. There's no rule in our current Wiki: MovieRules that says a TAS has to start from the very first level of the game, or level select should be banned.
Until now, there has never been a reason to list that rule, as it is obvious to anyone in any speedrunning community that it is in bad faith to try and pass this off as a valid form of full game completion. That being said, I have edited that rule in now, as a way of clarifying the rule that we have always had and enforced.
4. As a reference, SMB "Both Quests" RTA allows pushing button B to select a world. Even the best SMB speedrunners use it to start at World 8 for the second quest.
Okay, so why don't they do that for the explicit Second Quest category?
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Samsara wrote:
This is a single world run. Even if we had allowed it in a special circumstance, it would be obsoleted by a run of the full game. Biker Mice from Mars would be obsoleted by a full game run as well. Considering the full run already exists and is currently published, we cannot even make an exception for this run. Here's the given example from the rules: [3740] A2600 Private Eye "Case 5" by ViGadeomes in 14:53.28 [3762] A2600 Private Eye by ViGadeomes in 29:52.99 And here's another fun example: [113] SNES Top Gear "one track" by Phil in 03:51.17 [3876] SNES Top Gear "2 players" by jmosx36 in 1:27:34.66
I've looked at the examples. Those are examples of a single level or single task being obsoleted by a full game TAS, which I have nothing against. If my TAS goal were "beating World 1" or "beating 4-2", you're welcome to reject or obsolete the submission with such reasons. This TAS doesn't beat a segment or branch of this game. This TAS beats the game, and got the true ending. So it's not the same as the examples above.
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Allowing this movie would be setting an incredibly dangerous precedent. It would mean any game with a level select system, whether it be a password or pressing a button at the title screen, could have its any% run obsoleted through usage of that level select. No speedrunning community, TAS or RTA, should be allowing this universally. We never have, we most likely never will.
This is a serious statement, and also a very important issue to me. I'd admit I haven't played many games before. Can you show me 2 or 3 examples in which a level select system (no password allowed) could obsolete an any% run (providing it's a real any% run that's intended to be the fastest completion of the game)?
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I'll give you one - Half-Life Source. The game starts with all chapters unlocked immediately from the start. You don't even need to kill the final boss, you can just go straight to the last cutscene and end input there. G-Man still teleports you off to a new fate and credits roll if you do nothing, so there isn't even any gameplay that way, There is also the Sonic 3&K newgame+ example I mentioned earlier, though that isn't exactly any%.
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Samsara wrote:
Until now, there has never been a reason to list that rule, as it is obvious to anyone in any speedrunning community that it is in bad faith to try and pass this off as a valid form of full game completion. That being said, I have edited that rule in now, as a way of clarifying the rule that we have always had and enforced.
I see that this has just been added for the Wiki: MovieRules: "You are not allowed to skip levels with any form of intended level select feature." So according to this new added rule, shall we remove my 04:57.31 TAS, because I skipped lots of levels with the intended level select feature called "Warp Zone"? Shall we remove the current SMB3 and SMW "any%, no ACE"TAS, because they skipped lots of levels on the world map?
Okay, so why don't they do that for the explicit Second Quest category?
I don't know. Probably because they want the category to be different than "Both Quests", but also comparable with the any% category. At least on speedrun.com, "Both Quests" is a more popular category than "Second Quest", even though it's longer and requires more skills.
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HappyLee wrote:
Samsara wrote:
Until now, there has never been a reason to list that rule, as it is obvious to anyone in any speedrunning community that it is in bad faith to try and pass this off as a valid form of full game completion. That being said, I have edited that rule in now, as a way of clarifying the rule that we have always had and enforced.
I see that this has just been added for the Wiki: MovieRules: "You are not allowed to skip levels with any form of intended level select feature." So according to this new added rule, shall we remove my 04:57.31 TAS, because I skipped lots of levels with the intended level select feature called "Warp Zone"? Shall we remove the current SMB3 and SMW "any%, no ACE"TAS, because they skipped lots of levels on the world map?
The level select features are on a menu not within any game modes. In the examples you are giving : the main and only game mode.
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Password and level selector might have different working but they do the same thing in most cases which is skipping levels I have an example: here is my run: https://tasvideos.org/969G It has 8 levels and 1 final boss But at the title screen you can enter a password and directly skip to the final boss and finish the game in less than 30 seconds and obsolete my 10m47s run and according your definition the real any% run should be this levels skipping TAS but it is not the case not even in RTA Category of this game and it shouldn't be allowed
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HappyLee wrote:
This is a serious statement, and also a very important issue to me. I'd admit I haven't played many games before. Can you show me 2 or 3 examples in which a level select system (no password allowed) could obsolete an any% run (providing it's a real any% run that's intended to be the fastest completion of the game)?
You're still ignoring the fact that using that kind of level select system is not allowed. There is no distinction between systems that use passwords and systems that don't, they are all level select systems. The lack of distinction is what makes this such a serious concern for us. Consider what an average viewer would see if we allowed this to obsolete the published run: A run that uses level select to bypass seven worlds has completely obsoleted a run that plays all eight worlds. What this tells people is that they are allowed to use level selects to skip to the final levels of games. Nobody is going to try and make any distinction there, because it's unreasonable to assume that there would be a distinction. If we then start rejecting runs for using password systems, that makes us look like hypocrites. Why would we allow one level select but not any other? Nothing about that makes sense, it would make us look terrible. At worst, it would look like we are intentionally bending the rules purely to benefit you specifically.
Accountability note: The above was written before the quote below was posted.
HappyLee wrote:
So according to this new added rule, shall we remove my 04:57.31 TAS, because I skipped lots of levels with the intended level select feature called "Warp Zone"? Shall we remove the current SMB3 and SMW "any%, no ACE"TAS, because they skipped lots of levels on the world map?
Genuine question: Do you truly believe that all warp zones and methods of skipping levels are considered level select features? My goal here is for the rule to be as simply worded as possible while still conveying the exact meaning it needs to. I will admit the wording of the rule doesn't quite work for SMB and SMB3 warp zones as they do in fact allow you to select what level you warp to, but the thing is, those "level selects" are just subfunctions of warp zones that we already allow. Arguing that the rules now ban those feels like nothing more than a pure bad faith argument. So I ask again, are you genuinely trying to argue that warp zones are level selects because you believe it to be true? Does there actually need to be a distinction between them in the rules to prevent further misunderstanding?
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More importantly, warp zones are accessed from inside gameplay and require entering specific levels (reached by beating other specific levels, reached in turn by starting gameplay in the game) and require gameplay actions to reach and use them - none of which is the case with a level select.
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Pankaj wrote:
Password and level selector might have different working but they do the same thing in most cases which is skipping levels I have an example: here is my run: https://tasvideos.org/969G It has 8 levels and 1 final boss But at the title screen you can enter a password and directly skip to the final boss and finish the game in less than 30 seconds and obsolete my 10m47s run and according your definition the real any% run should be this levels skipping TAS but it is not the case not even in RTA Category of this game and it shouldn't be allowed
I think we should be clear once again, that my TAS doesn't use a password. Also, I'm against using password in an any% TAS or speedrun, because it's cheating. The Wiki: MovieRules said it clearly.
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Samsara wrote:
There is no distinction between systems that use passwords and systems that don't, they are all level select systems. The lack of distinction is what makes this such a serious concern for us.
No. I don't think passwords are level select. They're are usually for designers to debug, or for players to restore progress (kind of like a savestate). It's not the same thing as the world selection in this game, so I think we need some better distinctions.
Samsara wrote:
Consider what an average viewer would see if we allowed this to obsolete the published run: A run that uses level select to bypass seven worlds has completely obsoleted a run that plays all eight worlds.
Again, I never once suggested in the submission text or the forum that my run should obsolete the published run. As I said, it's for the judges to decide. However, I think the label and the introduction text on the movie page are clearly wrong, and need be fixed sometime in the future.
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Genuine question: Do you truly believe that all warp zones and methods of skipping levels are considered level select features?
Yes, of course. Warp Zones are a form of level select feature, and it's intended. For example, you can choose to go into 2-1, 3-1, or 4-1. "You are not allowed to skip levels with any form of intended level select feature." To me, this newly added rule says that Warp Zones aren't allowed, along with many other level select features.
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At worst, it would look like we are intentionally bending the rules purely to benefit you specifically.
So it's OK for you to add a new rule in Wiki: MovieRules just to reject my movie specifically?
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HappyLee wrote:
No. I don't think passwords are level select. They're are usually for designers to debug, or for players to restore progress (kind of like a savestate).
What do you think level select menus or toggles are for? They are also usually left into the game for debugging and testing conveniences, or for players to be able to mark their progress in a game that has no savegames. Do you think the game design intended for the players to start progress at world 8?
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So it's OK for you to add a new rule in Wiki: MovieRules just to reject my movie specifically?
Samsara did not add a new rule, she added a clarification to the rule. Nothing has changed to how the rule is enforced. This was stated multiple times.
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Noxxa wrote:
What do you think level select menus or toggles are for? They are also usually left into the game for debugging and testing conveniences, or for players to be able to mark their progress in a game that has no savegames. Do you think the game design intended for the players to start progress at world 8?
At least for this particular hack, players are allowed to start at World 8 as well as any other world, and that's intended by the hack creator.
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Samsara did not add a new rule, she added a clarification to the rule. Nothing has changed to how the rule is enforced. This was stated multiple times.
There wasn't any rule banning level selection before, and now there is. That looks like adding a new rule to me.
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HappyLee wrote:
Noxxa wrote:
What do you think level select menus or toggles are for? They are also usually left into the game for debugging and testing conveniences, or for players to be able to mark their progress in a game that has no savegames. Do you think the game design intended for the players to start progress at world 8?
At least for this particular hack, players are allowed to start at World 8 as well as any other world, and that's intended by the hack creator.
You did not answer either of my questions.
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Noxxa wrote:
Samsara did not add a new rule, she added a clarification to the rule. Nothing has changed to how the rule is enforced. This was stated multiple times.
There wasn't any rule banning level selection before, and now there is. That looks like adding a new rule to me.
The same rule already encompassed level selection like this (or at least it intended to, but the wording was not sufficiently clear, which is why it was now updated). No new rule was added.
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What’s actually happening here is this submission is making judges realize the rules had a loophole due to the way it was phrased. Because games typically do not give you the option to skip levels without the use of a password or cheat code, and up until this point nobody really TASed any such game that had a level select at the beginning, or at least ever utilized it thinking it didn’t make sense to use. Just because something isn’t explicitly mentioned in the rules doesn’t mean it’s an automatic endorsement. The movie rules have been adjusted many times over the years as new case situations come up. The rules regarding level select only ever mention passwords for skipping to levels because there hasn’t been many cases where games didn’t require a password or code to access. This game does, so a clarification has to be added to eliminate that loophole.
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HappyLee wrote:
Yes, of course. Warp Zones are a form of level select feature, and it's intended. For example, you can choose to go into 2-1, 3-1, or 4-1. "You are not allowed to skip levels with any form of intended level select feature." To me, this newly added rule says that Warp Zones aren't allowed, along with many other level select features.
This is the final edit I am making to the rule:
You are not allowed to skip normally required stages using non-gameplay features, i.e you may use in-game warps to skip stages, but you may not use level select cheats, menus, or passwords. Passwords and level select methods are allowed to access bonus content, such as extra levels not normally playable in-game, harder difficulties, or cosmetic improvements.
I don't think there's any further way this can be misinterpreted without bending it to a near impossible degree.
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So it's OK for you to add a new rule in Wiki: MovieRules just to reject my movie specifically?
This has been an enforced, yet unstated rule on the site for two decades. We have never felt the need to state this rule outright as it should be obvious to anyone that this kind of level selection is not a legitimate time saving technique. There are an infinite number of things the rules do not explicitly say that we would not allow. Listing all of them would be tedious and completely unnecessary. The site does not operate on Air Bud rules. Just because the rules don't say something outright doesn't mean we explicitly allow it. If you continue intentionally ignoring the repeated times we have told you this is not a new rule, this thread will be locked and action may be taken against your account for disruptive posting.
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here’s another example: https://tasvideos.org/2364M - uses a level select rather than a password - was obsoleted by a full game completion lee, for someone who’s known as a legendary taser, you’re behaving ridiculously rn. that’s like if i submitted a 10 minute glitchfest of super mario world and said it was better than the currently published one, which is nearly 3 hours fyi. stop acting so bloody hostile towards everyone just because we pointed out a single rule that you don’t like. i’m afraid this tas is gonna get rejected and you’re just gonna have to deal with that.
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Noxxa wrote:
The same rule already encompassed level selection like this (or at least it intended to, but the wording was not sufficiently clear, which is why it was now updated). No new rule was added.
Previous: You are not allowed to skip levels with passwords. My TAS doesn't use passwords. New rule: You are not allowed to skip levels with any form of intended level select feature. Edit reason (by Samsara): fine, it's in the rules now So cut the words play. That looks like adding a new rule (or at least changing the MovieRules) just to reject my submission. Seriously, how should this be allowed?
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LogansGamingRoom wrote:
here’s another example: https://tasvideos.org/2364M - uses a level select rather than a password - was obsoleted by a full game completion
It's been raised before by Noxxa, and I replied. Even he admitted that he used a faulty ROM. I didn't use a faulty ROM.
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HappyLee wrote:
LogansGamingRoom wrote:
here’s another example: https://tasvideos.org/2364M - uses a level select rather than a password - was obsoleted by a full game completion
It's been raised before by Noxxa, and I replied. Even he admitted that he used a faulty ROM. I didn't use a faulty ROM.
To clarify, while the ROM was faulty, it was actually released in that state, and the "correct" ROM only became public some time after the first TAS was published.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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HappyLee wrote:
It's been raised before by Noxxa, and I replied. Even he admitted that he used a faulty ROM. I didn't use a faulty ROM.
Please respect the preferred pronouns.
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EZGames69 wrote:
Just because something isn’t explicitly mentioned in the rules doesn’t mean it’s an automatic endorsement.
True. I'm not saying that this TAS should automatically be published just because it's faster and didn't break any previous movie rule. I just made a real any% TAS which uses a method allowed by the hack creator. How and if it to be published, it's up to the judges to decide.
Samsara wrote:
If you continue intentionally ignoring the repeated times we have told you this is not a new rule, this thread will be locked and action may be taken against your account for disruptive posting.
But clearly I met a judge who even changed the movie rule just to reject this TAS, and threatens to lock this thread or block my account. When I joined TASVideos on 2007, this used to be a friendly place for all TASers. My submissions were rejected before, but for good and fair reasons. Right now I can feel the hostilities in the air. What a pity.
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HappyLee wrote:
When I joined TASVideos on 2007, this used to be a friendly place for all TASers. My submissions were rejected before, but for good and fair reasons. Right now I can feel the hostilities in the air. What a pity.
Spikestuff wrote:
This topic of misinterpreting rules since all you're doing is point fingers and blame others.
WebNations/Sabih wrote:
+fsvgm777 never censoring anything.
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