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Joined: 4/16/2004
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Would a time attack of this game be interesting or would it be just a "walktrough"? Well, if you guys think it would be interesting I can do a time attack of it. But that if it would be worth the job.
/Walker Boh
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who likes this game? lol dunno, i think it's too ugly :P :))
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Joined: 3/11/2004
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I like it. Played it alot back in those days.
Joined: 3/26/2004
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Would be fun to see. Had this game and did manage to finish it. But please, no glitch that makes you play the same level over and over again until the game is finished. Just kidding. :p
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oooooooooo omg! i made a big confusion, i didn't know section z existed, cause i never tried to play it cause i thought it was FORMATION Z!!! formation z sucks so much that i get chills just to think about it, that kept me away from section z hahahaha, ok section z doesn't look bad =)
Joined: 4/15/2004
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i'd like a speedrun on it, just because i used to play it @ a friend's
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This one seems like it would be real easy since it is an auto moving side scroller like gradius. All you would have to do is dode bullets and use the right warps. I have never made a movie before so I'll try with this, no promises! :) RE the warps... GUIDE TO BALANGOOL Balangool is devied into 3 main areas, all of which are very large. This section is organized as follows: Section Number: upper destination/lower destination Section Notes where upper and lower destinations are where each section's upper and lower transporters take you, respectively. A blank in one of these spaces means I don't know where it leads. If there is a single tunnle instead of a transporter, just one number is given. In the case of transporter warps, the first number corrosponds to the left beam, the second to the right. When mentioning warps, Hi-warp means it is located at the top of the screen, Low-warp the opposit. Some sections have 2 warps.If "Blocked" appears, it means the transporter beam is a deadly force field until its respective gererator is destroyed. AREA 1 0:1 1:2/3 2:4/ 3:6/4 4:6/1 5:7/8 6:5/12[Blocked] 7: / Hi-Warp[Transporter:5/12] 8: /11 Low-Warp[Flash Bomb] 9: /6 10:8/ 11:9/10 Generator 12:13/14 Hi-Warp[Power Room] 13:16/ 14:16/18 Hi-Warp[Energizer] 15: /18 16:15/18 Generator 17:19 Low-Warp[Transporter:14/] 18:16/17[Blocked] 19:20 Zamuza(Boss) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- AREA 2 20:22/21 21:24/30[Blocked] Low-Warp[Crash Ball] 22:21/35[Blocked] 23:25/20 24:23/25 25: /26 26:27/21 Hi-Warp 1[Power Room] Low-Warp 2[Transporter:22/20] 27:28/ 28:29/ Hi-Warp[Energize] 29: /20 Generator 30: /31 31:32 32:33 Zamuza 33:34/ 34:23/ Generator 35: /37 Hi-Warp 1[Energizer] Low-Warp 2[Transporter: / ] 36:38/ Hi-Warp[Energizer] 37:36/ 38:39 39:40 Balaba(Boss) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- AREA 3 40:42/41 41:44/43 Low-Warp[Energizer] 42:41/57 43:42/51[Blocked] 44:45 45:46 Galga(Boss) 46:50/ 47: / Hi-Warp[Transporter 49/ ] 48: / 49: / Generator 50: /47 51:52 52:53 Balaba 53:54/ 54: / Hi-Warp[Transporter: /56] 55: / 56:42/ Generator 57: /58[Blocked] 58:59 59:L-Brain(Last Boss)
Joined: 7/11/2006
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I've decided to start a TAS of Section Z for my first one, though I've never done a TAS before. I've also never played Section Z, so today will be spent playing through the game and getting to know it before having a crack at a test run. Those who have played it, any suggestions to make the gameplay look cooler or freaking amazing while TASing? I noticed on GameFAQs that there is an increased speed buff you can get, and that the game is nigh impossible to play with that buff maxed out. Maybe I should TAS it so I never get hit with the speed buff on max as soon as I can get it? Just a thought. Also, any suggestions for a first time TASer would be helpful :D *edit* I just found an interesting map for the game on Gamespot, this will help me enormously. If someone knows the absolute best route to take, that would be great. *edit*
Player (70)
Joined: 8/24/2004
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Location: Sweden
I don't quite remember as it's been MANY years since I last played this game. But I don't recall this game to be linear at all places. So you will need to find the best rout. Also I think this run should go more for the astethic point of it, and not for speed. I recall this as being an autoscroller. It won't make sense to make it 100% kill either, unless thats superhard. You could perhaps grab the Gradius run as a referrence to what I mean. Alot of things could be cool to see. Good luck!
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If it's an autoscroller don't run it, those are boring as a TAS.
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KDR_11k wrote:
If it's an autoscroller don't run it, those are boring as a TAS.
Seconded.
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Autoscrollers are harder to make interesting, but by no means impossible. Make a level or two and upload it and we can give some feedback if it's a good idea for a game.
Player (70)
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It's probably more a Tool-Assisted Playaround.
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I also second that games like Gradius/Gradius 3 make for poor TAS choices. All they do is bore me to sleep. Anyway, to each his or her own.
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I think those kind of videos are awesome. To see someone totaly burst around, close, or even inside enemies, are just mindblowing! :D Such as in the Gradius movie, where Morimoto avoids most, if not all, the slugs from the volcanos. It shows perfect reflexes which is highly entertaining. I'd love to see more videos like this, so GO FOR IT! :D
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Joined: 6/25/2004
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Location: Maine
Actually, I found this game to be hard as hell, so if you can make a TAS of it, man, do it. I can put up with the autoscrolling enough to see someone pwn this game. Even with Game Genie, I've never been able to pull it off.
Joined: 8/24/2006
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A TAS run of Section Z would be cool to see. I got the game when I was like 9. I can play it professionally but I could never beat it, cuz I cant figure out the the correct warp to take to the last level. The farthest I got was in the stage with the jazzy music. I suggest you look in GameFAQs or somewhere and write down the warps to take-- er figure out the best (fastest) way to go. You can also get a speedboost somewhere, I usu. dont grab it cuz it makes you go WAY 2 FAST. But if you can lower emulation speed it shouldnt be a problem. GL dude.
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To Xpenguin: Yo dude! We usu. prefer proper English cuz it looks better and makes this forum look more cleaner and rational.
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Joined: 7/6/2004
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This was one of my favorite games when I was little (both NES and Arcade versions, which are very different). I have a map of the warps that I made still. Unfortunately, I agree with the above. The whole game is an autoscroller. There isn't much to do in the way of tricks. The speed-ups max out at 2, so it is still easy to control the character playing at normal speed. As for short cuts, when you run out of energy, you lose a life and get send back to the beginning of the zone (section is a multiple of 20). I believe that the M weapon does the most damage. It changes to the M/F combo if you collect another M, so you would have to be careful not to since that can't fire as fast. (You have to make the upper shot disappear to fire again.) To make the secret portals appear, shoot at the top of the screen. The warps mentioned above that are hard to find are in sections 47 and 54. Fortunately, they were nice and both the left and right warp take you to the donut miniboss. (Interestingly, the other miniboss in the 3rd zone can be fought many times to keep on getting the +8 max HP item. That is the only way I know of to get the full 99 HP.) Once you know the path, it isn't that hard to beat the game without cheating at all. ---------------------------------- Here is the map I have:
Section:        Goes to:        Comment:

0               D:1
1               U:2,D:3
2               U:4,D:3         M
3               U:4,D:6
4               U:6,D:1         F
5               U:7,D:8
6               U:5,D:12        1st Red
7               U:8,D:11        L:5,R:12, Secret: Get B
8               U:5,D:11        Flash bomb
9               U:6,D:6         B
10              U:8,D:9         M
11              U:9,D:10        1st Donut
12              U:13,D:14       Secret: Brains
13              U:16,D:14       M
14              U:16,D:18
15              U:18,D:18       F
16              U:15,D:18       2nd Donut
17              R:19            B
18              U:16,D:17       2nd Red
19              20              Boss 1
20              U:22,D:21       F
21              U:24,D:30       1st Red, Crush ball
22              U:21,D:35       2nd Red
23              U:25,D:20
24              U:23,D:25       M
25              U:28,D:26
26              U:27,D:21       Secret: Brains
27              U:28,D:29
28              U:29,D:27       M, F, Secret: Give energy
29              U:24,D:20       1st Donut
30              U:22,D:31       B
31              R:32
32              R:33            Boss 1
33              U:34,D:34
34              U:23,D:20       2nd Donut
35              U:36,D:37       M
36              U:38,D:35       Secret: Give energy
37              U:36,D:38       F
38              R:39
39              40              Boss 2
40              U:42,D:41
41              U:44,D:43       M
42              U:41,D:57       B
43              U:42,D:51       1st Red
44              R:45            F
45              R:46            Miniboss (can be fought multiple times)
46              U:50,D:48       M
47              U:46,D:50       L:49,R:49
48              U:46,D:47       B
49              U:41,D:57       1st Donut
50              U:48,D:47
51              R:52
52              R:53            Boss 2
53              U:54,D:55       Secret: Give energy
54              U:53,D:55       F, L:56,R:56
55              U:53,D:54       B
56              U:42,D:57       2nd Donut
57              U:43,D:58       F, 2nd Red
58              R:59
59              Boss of game