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  • FCEU
  • Uses passwords (It's the only way to play the pro levels)
  • Aims for fastest time
  • Manipulates luck (enemy movement)
This movie plays the 4 pro levels in Lolo2 as fast as possible. The pro levels can be accesed by entering "PROA", "PROB", "PROC" or "PROD".
After Randils Adventures of Lolo 2 run, he made a test movie of the pro levels. Hanzou pointed out a level that could be improved, which gave Randil the motivation to really make a pro levels run. Ever since Randil made his test movie I wanted to make a pro level run sometime, and Randils pro level run made me decide to start it.
Both Randil and Hanzou continuously found improvements on the levels today, which gave me even more motivation. So I need to thank Randil and Hanzou, or I wouldn't have finished this movie today.
As for the actual strategy (and I don't want to sound selfish), I found out about everything myself. The movie improves:
  • 8 frames on selecting PROA
  • 723 frames on PROA, you probably need to know this level to understand what's going on (also read what Randil wrote in his submission text about this level).
  • 4 frames on selecting PROB
  • 408 frames on PROB, when I was working on this level, Randil posted a strategy that had the same idea as my strategy. Later Hanzou improved Randils strategy, but the version I had already finished was even a little faster than Hanzou's.
  • 6 frames on selecting PROC
  • 31 frames on PROC
  • 4 frames on selecting PROD
  • 1605 frames on PROD, today, Hanzou improved Randils stategy on PROD significantly. After that, Randil made an even better improvement, and then Hanzou saved a few squares on that version. I knew a small improvement at the beginning, but after having done that small change, I realized the entire enemy movement and such were different. So basically, Randil's and Hanzou's tactics were very good, but useless to me, since the whole level had to be played different. At the end, I managed to save a whopping 1605 frames on this level alone, making this level about 300 frames faster than the latest version Hanzou posted.
At first the levels seemed very bad for speedrunning, but now, there is almost no waiting time, and in this short movie various tricks are displayed.
Enjoy...
Baxter

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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #874: Baxter's NES Adventures of Lolo 2 in 02:26.37
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Holy crap that was good. You did a great job on all levels, I can't do anything but give you credit for that. Definite YES vote on this. I really liked how you handled the Gol's fire on PRO C. Simply amazing.
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Great job! Will vote yes when I have enough posts. However, I'll finish this day showing that we're never quite done. =) Here's one more technique that I trust you'll try and make frame-perfect when you find the time. Early lag prevention on PROB saves about 40 frames: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/260/Lolo2-PROB_lesslag.fcm. -hanzou
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Well.... what can I say. Nice find! The thought had crossed my mind, but since you'd have to walk a lot more squares to shoot the two enemies I figered it would be slower anyway....... I guess not. Good job! I already saw a way to slightly improve your version.