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Posted: 3/12/2011 8:55 AM
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Mr._Pwnage
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How well does jumping maintain speed for Tails/Eggman U-turns? It's always seemed faster to me, but I don't have a memory address for character speed lying around or anything.
Posted: 3/12/2011 9:21 AM
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sonicpacker
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Mr. Pwnage wrote:
How well does jumping maintain speed for Tails/Eggman U-turns? It's always seemed faster to me, but I don't have a memory address for character speed lying around or anything.
Jumping and attempting sharp turns are quite slow compared to running. I tried jumping over rails at some places in Iron Gate and it was multiple frames slower than just running around the corner. I've never had to do a U turn though, so I'm not sure on that. I'm guessing jumping would be faster than just holding the opposite of your original direction.
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Posted: 3/12/2011 3:30 PM
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Phallosvogel
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Paused wrote:
So in Green Forest... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aArYWoFpY1c The running vertically up the tree trunks trick is new right? Because it looks awesome.
I have no idea what's going on
Posted: 3/13/2011 10:59 PM
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Mr._Pwnage
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This is the kind of thing TASing is all about.
Posted: 3/14/2011 12:52 PM
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Rolanmen1
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OMG, this just makes me want to see the final results. Also, i THINK i saw an improvement, during 1:26 of that video, if you pick that line of rings with that upgrade and just do one spin instead of 2, shouldn't that be faster?
Posted: 3/15/2011 7:26 AM
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mapler90210
Joined: 3/22/2008
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Even though the Light Dash is very fast, you lose a lot of that speed once it finishes. At full speed, spindashing is roughly the same speed as a Light Dash and obviously it can be maintained.
Posted: 3/15/2011 7:47 PM
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yosh
Joined: 3/12/2011
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Oh gosh these Sonic speedruns are so incredible ! The wall ride trick is what players ARE expecting from a true sonic game : P Need a full-length tas of this game ^^
Posted: 4/8/2011 8:49 PM
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Any chance of an update?
Posted: 4/8/2011 10:53 PM
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sonicpacker
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We are in the middle of redoing Iron Gate because mapler found a time saver before the first lift, and I found out that shooting the door locks separately is faster than locking on to all of them at once.
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Posted: 4/21/2011 10:19 PM
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I am in awe from the following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-iCTaXJAno
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Posted: 5/19/2011 8:36 AM
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ReneBalow
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White Jungle M1 in 1'20"94 This is a little improvement from my last run with 1'21"32. and almost 6 seconds faster than the normal WR.
Posted: 5/20/2011 4:15 AM
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N._Harmonik
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ReneBalow wrote:
White Jungle M1 in 1'21"32 almost 5 seconds faster than the previous TAS WR.
Awesome! Say, are you and Dennis Balow related?
Why, oh, why do I even <i>try</i> to understand my own species?
Posted: 5/20/2011 12:22 PM
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ReneBalow
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N. Harmonik wrote:
ReneBalow wrote:
White Jungle M1 in 1'21"32 almost 5 seconds faster than the previous TAS WR.
Awesome! Say, are you and Dennis Balow related?
Yes, Dennis Balow is my brother.
Posted: 8/3/2011 9:16 PM
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For those who do not yet know, a non tool assisted Dark story run in 28:14.52 has been completed by son1cgu1tar. I imagine you guys will know all the tricks in there, but its son1cgu1tar, so who knows?
Posted: 8/4/2011 12:45 PM
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Good run, the occasional error, but still some improvements to be made. On the last boss as soon as Sonic says "I'm not done with you yet", he drops his defenses, so you can attack him then. No need to wait for the animation first, if you start a superspin and release as soon as he begins to speak, you can hit him before he finishes talking. Plus you can trigger Sonic casting the spell slightly earlier if you just run in the opposite direction to him, since he casts it once you're a certain distance away. If anybody gets bored, feel free to do a TAS of that fight.
Posted: 9/13/2011 9:44 PM
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DennisBalow
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I have sometimes the feeling that the Dreamcast version is in many Boss fights faster. If i see console World Records from the bosses it´s almost only the Dreamcast version
Posted: 9/28/2011 7:26 AM
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So, here's something fun 80C5D724 -- Forward Velocity 80C5D728 -- Upward Velocity This applies for all characters, from what I can tell.
Posted: 9/28/2011 4:16 PM
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petrie911 wrote:
So, here's something fun 80C5D724 -- Forward Velocity 80C5D728 -- Upward Velocity This applies for all characters, from what I can tell.
If I was still TASing this, I would love you forever. Once read only works 100% properly and desyncs aren't so common, mapler and I might give it another go.
https://personalitygrowth.com/entp-myths-stereotypes-misconceptions-cliches-and-tropes-that-are-inaccurate/
Posted: 10/11/2011 7:22 PM
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DennisBalow
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What is this code? Can that help to fixed desyncs?
Posted: 10/11/2011 7:39 PM
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Derakon
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Those are memory addresses, not codes, and they'll do nothing about desyncs.
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Posted: 10/30/2011 4:16 PM
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Brian_pso
Joined: 10/30/2011
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Those are the addresses in memory that shows the speed of the character, so with it we can know if something is faster or not for real, instead of trusting only in our eyes. This is an awesome discovery man, great job =D
Posted: 10/31/2011 2:02 PM
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mapler90210
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I'm in the middle of a power outage (no internet except my phone), or else I'd check this myself, but how does this game run on the latest installment(s) of dolphin? I may try TASing this again if it's gotten better.
Posted: 11/6/2011 9:44 PM
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Brian_pso
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It really runs great on the version I have(7676 with optimizations to the SSE2 instruction) but I need to do a long video to test it's playback stability a little further.
Posted: 1/17/2012 5:45 AM
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How exactly do we use those addresses, petrie? Cheat Engine, MHS, Dolphin?
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Posted: 1/17/2012 5:27 PM
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petrie911
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you have to open Dolphin in debugging mode. Use the -d option when running it from the command line. The memory watch will be displayed. Bizarrely, MHS doesn't get along with Dolphin, and I can't figure out why. Which is a shame, because MHS has much better features than most built-in memory watch/search features.
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