It has come to my attention that a few people on this forum asked for a tool that converted Frames to Time, for convenience sake. Since I had a little too much free time, I started working on one.
For now, it only converts from frames to time, using a 60 frames per second basis. The next version will also allow to convert from time to frames, and support different FPS timings.
Here's the link: http://halamantariel.homeip.net/FramesToTime.zip
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I thought there was a bit of a discrepancy with some of the emulators' frame to time conversion. Something like FCEU actually running at 30.08 fps, and snes9x running a very tiny bit over 60.
SGB runs at ~60.262 (inconsistently), GBA runs at ~59.67, etc.
But for calculation purposes, the site seems to use 60.000 for most systems.
Snes9x uses exactly 60 or 50. Which isn't technically correct, but that's not the issue.
For now, it only converts from frames to time, using a 60 frames per second basis. The next version will also allow to convert from time to frames, and support different FPS timings.
I haven't tried your program and that's probably why I just don't get it. Why would people want a 380k executable in order to divide one number by 60? You don't need a specialized program to divide a number by 60. Just use the calculator. And don't tell me it's because "it's too much trouble to write or click on '/60'."
Even if this tool made sense (which I don't understand why it would), wouldn't it be much easier and much more portable to make eg. a page that uses javascript to do the operation? No need to download a 380k windows executable to run a simple divide-by-60 calculator.
Even if this tool made sense (which I don't understand why it would), wouldn't it be much easier and much more portable to make eg. a page that uses javascript to do the operation? No need to download a 380k windows executable to run a simple divide-by-60 calculator.
First of all, I think your reply is a little too harsh overall. As you can see in the first reply I got, at least 1 person thinks this is useful. That being a reality, it is not useless. I'm pretty sure more people are using it but don't bother posting on the forum about it. Flame me all you want, but I won't admit that this program is useless.
About your suggestion of making this a javascript page, it's really a good idea. I will work on doing this also, and will provide the users with two choices. Either use the webpage or download the executable which will be linked on that same page.
Again, think all you want of this program. If you don't like it, don't use it. No need to flame me about what you think of that program.
I haven't tried your program and that's probably why I just don't get it. Why would people want a 380k executable in order to divide one number by 60? You don't need a specialized program to divide a number by 60. Just use the calculator. And don't tell me it's because "it's too much trouble to write or click on '/60'."
Determining time from frames is not as simple as "dividing by 60." That will give you a crazy decimal number in terms of fractions of seconds, which, at least in the US, is not how we keep time. We keep time in terms of hours, minutes, seconds, so a tool that easily and clearly informs us in those terms is useful. If you'd rather divide by 60 several times and convert from decimal to base-60, then I guess you like math more than me, and I'm a math major.
Determining time from frames is not as simple as "dividing by 60." That will give you a crazy decimal number in terms of fractions of seconds, which, at least in the US, is not how we keep time. We keep time in terms of hours, minutes, seconds, so a tool that easily and clearly informs us in those terms is useful. If you'd rather divide by 60 several times and convert from decimal to base-60, then I guess you like math more than me, and I'm a math major.
My point was that making a 300k+ windows binary in order to perform such a simple operation is total overkill.
Here's a short perl skript which does the same thing:
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not everyone can use perl script... Like I mentiond on IRC, in Pascal console-type application source would look like this:
Var
n: integer;
fps : real;
begin
write('enter number of frames and fps:');
readln(n,fps);
writeln(trunc(n/fps) div 3600,':',trunc(n/fps) div 60 mod 60,':',trunc(n/fps) mod 60,'.',trunc(1000*n/fps))
end.
or even
Var n: integer;fps : real;begin write('enter number of frames and fps:');readln(n,fps);writeln(trunc(n/fps) div 3600,':',trunc(n/fps) div 60 mod 60,':',trunc(n/fps) mod 60,'.',trunc(1000*n/fps)) end.
:D
It's the price to pay for simple GUI development...
It is perfectly possible to make a windows binary which performs that operation, full GUI and all, in less than 10 kilobytes.
However, using a separate binary for a division is still an overkill IMO.
If you have the coding ability to write that tool, why not just change the emulator. I'm sure it would take no more than 10 minutes to find and change the code, apart from waiting for compilation.
It's the price to pay for simple GUI development...
It is perfectly possible to make a windows binary which performs that operation, full GUI and all, in less than 10 kilobytes.
Yes, but then you'll have to deal with the raw WinAPI stuff. Which can be done in Delphi too (and you get an 16 KB EXE, which is the smallest the compiler bothers with). ASM programmers on the other hand will be horrified by the amounts of space you're wasting, and so on etc. ...
Warp wrote:
However, using a separate binary for a division is still an overkill IMO.
Yup. But there's an audience for everything. :)
EDIT: I'm sure it's possible to implement such a display into SNES9x in ten minutes, if you know the source.
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Okay guys, you've shown your 1337 perl skills. Now if someone could show me how to make OpenOffice Calc (the spreadsheet thingy) do this, that would be awesome. I can make it divide by 60 to get the seconds, but once the seconds go over 60 ... I don't know any of that advanced stuff.
You mean like this? I don't really know javascript all that well, so I kind of just brute forced it. It took me five minutes to figure out how to code it, and then 55 minutes to look up the javascript commands to actually implement it. Luckily, I had a free hour between World Cup games. :)
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