Posted: 8/5/2006 7:12 AM
Post subject: Hybrid Heaven
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L4yer
Joined: 6/12/2006
Posts: 368
[URL=http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hybridie1.jpg][/URL] This is not a fairly known game out there for the N64 but i think people could still enjoy seeing it done. The thing is, i have no idea how long it would take. 4 hours? Anyone up for it? I started doing it (as in i'm in level 1-1, still trying to learn how to move and record. Also not sure how to manipulate enemies and put them down as fast as possible, might need to know their hp values to make it faster.
Posted: 8/5/2006 6:15 PM
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L4yer
Joined: 6/12/2006
Posts: 368
Ok, i got up to the first battle in the game and figured a few things out. 1. It is very hard to move correctly with a keyboard and without a joystiq. 2. Damage is pretty much calculated by where you are standing and the power you have. After the exact same input, damage to the first enemy with the first kick was either 40 or 41 so i really don't get it... didnt test enough to get a critical hit. 3. I still suck. Anyway, here is a .m64 of what i did even if it is bad. :) http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=51785DC67B90C643
Posted: 8/5/2006 11:59 PM
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L4yer
Joined: 6/12/2006
Posts: 368
Sorry for triple post but since nobody seems to care/not know/have the game I made a video out of hopes to bring some discussion. here.
Posted: 8/6/2006 12:34 AM
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Tiger-
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Joined: 7/14/2006
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Thanks for the avi, i'll watch it as soon as it downloads. As for the game, i can't comment since i only got to the point where you get Johnny back. But having played the game i can say that the combat is interesting and i just love throws. Good luck with the game.
Posted: 8/6/2006 7:01 PM
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ArcadicGamer
Joined: 1/23/2005
Posts: 73
Location: Pekin IL
One of my FAV 64 games, i would love to see it done. Primary optimizations would be lvling your body and arms/legs as fast as possible, and maybe manipulating the enemies always to hit you somewhere to take less damage. Its been while since i played this game, but i would probly be a 3.5+ run.
Posted: 8/6/2006 8:04 PM
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L4yer
Joined: 6/12/2006
Posts: 368
I'm just gonna run through it now just because so much is unknown about this game, espcially the enemies and the battle system. Where to camp enemies is another thing because i don't think i'll be able to survive with 1 in every defensive stat :P. What moves to learn/use is another thing, headbutt is a priority. It's been a while since i have played this so i still need to relearn where to go.. I sense a problem beating some of the enemies though. If there is no way to avoid damage on some of them and i didn't get any or enough healing items, could be trouble. Ones in question: Muhlifain, the overworld super Muhlafain, Mi'Goea the big version at the end, maybe the men in black at the beginning (could be wrong on the names) could be impossible to beat without taking damage. Gacrux (the turlte monster) is something i would need to get a ring eraser for. Kevin Young would be difficult to avoid since he can move twice before attacking as long with a few others. There really needs to be a detailed guide.
Posted: 8/6/2006 8:06 PM
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nesrocks
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are you using a keyboard? can't you get an analog controller, or use the mouse? good game. dunno how cool it would be to watch for someone who's never played it though. good luck
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Posted: 8/6/2006 8:10 PM
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L4yer
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Posts: 368
Yeah a keyboard, i tried using the mouse but not sure how to make it keep the joystiq pressed in one direction. It only moves a bit according to where i move the mouse. Both are wireless too so sometimes response isn't so great when pressing multiple keys at once.
Posted: 8/6/2006 9:29 PM
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nitsuja
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L4yer wrote:
i tried using the mouse but not sure how to make it keep the joystiq pressed in one direction.
(Like this.)
Posted: 8/6/2006 10:25 PM
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L4yer
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Thanks that is good to know, hopefully i can find a controller to use though. In battle, the speed and distance you step is determined by how far you move the analog stick over so i won't be able to do any slow back stepping unless i change the range EVERY time i want to do it... Found out that enemy techniques are predetermined from the point where they decide to grapple or maybe even before that, which is bad when trying to learn something. Done 1-1, avi for anyone who wants to see it. http://rapidshare.de/files/28450010/h2.avi.html
Posted: 8/7/2006 5:12 PM
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L4yer
Joined: 6/12/2006
Posts: 368
Someone at SDA is doing this game so hopefully he can get it done relatively soon so it can be used as a reference. Done stage 1, total time is a bit less than 19 minutes after the cutscene. Don't know if that is bad or good. Only 120 rerecords however since i still have no clue what i am doing. :P The battle with Procyon was pretty cool when we both jumped back at the same time. Here is the .m64 http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0B114F316E6D04F9 Question: How come the overall frame count is 67877 while the input is only 33300? The 3 other n64 games i've watched all had the frame counts much more even.