Topic by Diman

Posted: 8/9/2006 8:49 PM

Post subject: Final Fight 3

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Diman

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Hi! This is a future project I want to finish. I know there has been a submission for this game- a run by mazzeneko in 21:48. And I know some people don't like beat 'em up games at all, and some people don't like the choice of Guy as a character, and some don't like singleplayer runs when you can do a multi-player timeattack... Well, unfortunately I was planning to do a run with all those things included. I've watched mazzeneko's run and it was good, but it can be improved, so does this sound like a good idea? To make it more interesting I'm going to post a WIP: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1565/Final%20Fight%203%20completed%20fast%20by%20Diman.smv

Posted: 8/10/2006 8:32 PM

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Highness

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Virtually any game is a possible entertainment source. If you can make this game without providing much boredom to it, go for it. I'd watch this run for sure. Keep in mind that it's hard to get an audience for such games though, so the ratings might not be what you thought they would be in the first place.

Posted: 8/11/2006 4:26 AM

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Dromiceius

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I can't give proper feedback for the time being, but I'm going to go ahead and insist that you use both players. I think it's essential for quick, brutal boss fights. Guy is a good choice, though. A pox on anyone who says different without some sort of evidence.

Posted: 8/11/2006 4:47 AM

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TheAxeMan

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I agree with Guy and I will also be watching this. Good luck!

Posted: 8/11/2006 7:41 AM

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Highness

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Fastest vs the strongest? Which would be most optimal to use?

Posted: 8/11/2006 12:05 PM

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Diman

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Thanks for the feedback guys! I did make choice on Guy cuz he is my favorite character. And why I did only a single player run was because it's hard enough to control one player. But I agree that it's more fun with 2 players, but you'll probably going to see it in the future cuz it's one of Genisto's planning to do with Phil (Project of which they think of making).

Posted: 8/11/2006 1:28 PM

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AngerFist

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Any chance you will TAS Final Fight after this with Haggar?

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 8/11/2006 1:43 PM

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AnotherGamer

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Looks decent so far but you could vary your moves more. The dash combo gets pretty boring and it takes a long time for the first hit to connect.

Posted: 8/11/2006 1:43 PM

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Diman

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*The dash combo gets pretty boring and it takes a long time for the first hit to connect.* Yeah, I know it may look very boring, but I think that's the fastest way to complete the game on, by doin' the same combo over and over again. *Any chance you will TAS Final Fight after this with Haggar?* Yeah I can do that! ; )

Posted: 8/11/2006 3:15 PM

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Highness

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Diman wrote:

Yeah, I know it may look very boring, but I think that's the fastest way to complete the game on, by doin' the same combo over and over again.

Again, it's more important that this run is entertaining, rather than fast! Since if it's gets repeditive, people will stop watching.

Posted: 8/11/2006 3:56 PM

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Diman

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Ok, ok. I got it. I'm going to think a new way how I can complete the game without being so tedious. I will post a WIP soon.

Posted: 8/11/2006 7:42 PM

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GuanoBowl

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How much time you think you can shave from 21:48?

Change my sig. again, and I will murder your pet fish.

Posted: 8/11/2006 8:52 PM

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Diman

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I don't know GuanoBowl, but I think I can improve it by 2 min at least. If I take my time and post many WIPs so people can give me feedback and tips on how I can be more entertaining and fast as well- but as Highness wrote: "it's more important that this run is entertaining, rather than fast!" This is a new run I did: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1585/Final%20Fight%203%20completed%20fast%20by%20Diman.smv Note: If you thought it was to short I'm goin' to explain why: Cuz it's a test only on how I can play at the rest of the movie! >= ) I manipulate Guy to get 2 enemies in one combo when 2 enemies appear to save time, so maybe it's funnier to watch the run now. I use the dash combo most of the time- hope you forgive me for that. If you like it I will continue this TAS but if not I will redo everything and start over again.

Posted: 8/12/2006 6:08 PM

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mazzeneko

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Good thing somebody is picking this project up! I wish you luck manipulating the enemies, it's tough work. Are you using the same route as me or did you find a better one?

- mazzeneko

Posted: 8/12/2006 6:11 PM

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AnotherGamer

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Looks better. Try to use his special and super a bit too.

Posted: 8/12/2006 7:31 PM

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Diman

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Fastest vs the strongest? Which would be most optimal to use?

Sorry I haven't answered your question before Mr.Highness. Guy is the best one if you want a fast TAS, and he is really powerful if you use his dash combo quite often (but not all of the time of course because I don't want this run to get boring so I will vary my moves).

mazzeneko wrote:

I wish you luck manipulating the enemies, it's tough work. Are you using the same route as me or did you find a better one?

Thanks for wishing me good luck! I will work on this at least a month! And yeah, this run is going to be hopefully 2 minutes faster, if everything goes like I want. I'm going to use more luck manipulation, so when 2 enemies are coming I'm going to kill them on the same combo like you did, and I'm going to use warps as well. Improvements here and there which is going to make me save many frames. Funny you join the discussion mazzeneko! You can give me tips about the game! ;) *Looks better. Try to use his special and super a bit too.* Thanks! Yeah I'm going to read how I use the super combo at http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/snes/game/588334.html

Posted: 8/20/2006 10:24 PM

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Diman

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New WIP! I have done some changes in the gameplay, I wanna know what y'all think! ;) http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1679/Final%20Fight%203%20completed%20fast%20by%20Diman.smv

Posted: 8/20/2006 10:31 PM

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AngerFist

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Gonna watch now and reply when I've watched it. Ok just watched it, I liked your fast approach. Like how you jumped quickly back after killing a enemy far to the right. Was gonna ask why you did not pick Haggar because I think he is the strongest one but I gather he cannot run as fast as Guy and do quick combos.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 8/20/2006 10:57 PM

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Diman

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Now I'm happy! I'm glad you liked it! ;) Yeah that was really hard before I decided to work on a TAS on this game "Shall I play like mazzeneko only with a faster route, or shall I pick another character"? I was also thinkin' about using Haggar because he is the most powerful of them all, but I think Guy is the best one in the length, with his awesome combos and his incredible speed!

Posted: 8/20/2006 11:08 PM

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AngerFist

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By the way (sorry guys for this somewhat reduntant post) your TASing skills is increasing, you are becoming more thorough in your runs, keep it up.

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P

Posted: 8/20/2006 11:09 PM

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atro_city

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Not to mention a faster super.

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcuV2JdaBYY]Streets of Rage 3 (2 players)[/url]

Posted: 8/21/2006 12:33 PM

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Diman

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Thank you guys for the nice comments!! I am really glad now! ; D Yeah, I remember when I was new on the community-I wasn't really good at that time. Some TASes was kinda good but could be better, but some TASes I made wasn't good at all, when I look back in the old days. But not anymore! From now on I will always put time and effort into my runs, to entertain the viewers as much as possible. I will make quality stuff only! Next WIP will finish the first stage! Stay tuned!

Posted: 8/22/2006 4:29 PM

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Diman

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Done! http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1694/Final%20Fight%203%20completed%20fast%20by%20Diman.smv Stage 1 done like I promised and a little bit from stage 2 also.

Posted: 8/23/2006 12:56 AM

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AnotherGamer

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Looks decent enough, keep at it.

Posted: 8/23/2006 1:35 AM

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Serj

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I enjoyed the WIP, if the rest of the run is like this I'll be happy. I hope you plan on using the SUPER moves on the bosses. Supers are the coolest part of the game.

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