http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/47520653453335338
Can't switch suits earlier, i think the suits are not getting speed from the slopes and they also force one extra switch right before the boss(the nephew dialogue requires normal clothing), I managed to lessen the boss battles to 8 hits but i'd really appreciate some HP addresses.
EDIT: thanks challenger for the encouragement, I should lessen the rhythm now if i can't reconcile other stuff but hopefully i'll keep going with the TAS along with it
EDIT2:i'll have to redo the first boss of the stage3, i made a very silly mistake by not switching both characters at the same time(something i tried to do many many times before and couldn't do it)
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/47542870873818966http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/MagicalQuest3-StarringMickey&Donald(J)-Stage3-DryDesert-Area2.png
I TAS'd up to the entrance of the tunnel and i had 2 previous WIPs with going up outside the tunnel(killing Donald lol) and one incomplete TAS through the tunnel.
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i'm going UP but any mistake could make any strategy viable, both could be faster if accepted killing donald twice in a row, but i'm not too keen on that, since lives could give me other skips in the future.I also understand the game's camera better now, it only relocates to the character ahead if the character is touching some floor. Jumping delays it but there's no use to that since the balloon for the character's death usually doesn't put it back to the new platforms if the discrepancy between characters is too high.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/47563659998521402Link to video
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
Area 3, might redo the end if i really can't switch suits simultaneously.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/48164144194594755
And here it is?:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/48165803170379369
taking damage gave me the pattern i wanted so it may look ugly but it's necessary to avoid wasting time with moves that make the boss invulnerable
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This stage also makes the differences between Easy and Hard pretty clear.While bosses may be the same, the stage layout is harder(more enemies and less platforms) to navigate but would have allowed to use some enemies against each other. The suit mechanic only seems to allow simultaneous switching if you're standing still.
I tried many times and couldn't hit the boss twice in any way.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/48342706297025501
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
mickey 3 sky1
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/48342706297025501
i made an interesting skip at the end, i could have killed them to save frames with the switches, but i wanna see where else can i suicide my characters.
If you're interested, feel free to finish the rest of this TAS despite my work because i'll probably go too slowly to finish this before i lose interest. Life is hard right now.
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TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
up to the first boss with both magic suits, i wanna try doing the sky1 wait skip with forest suit, but for some reason i couldn't find the same frame window to end sky1 earlier
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/49386604798781863
7frames to fall after switching,4 frames to walk and jump
40181 right 185 B and 28 frames later mikcey jump at 214
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
I am also looking forward this project. Keep up the good work!
I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Current projects: NES: Tetris "fastest 999999" (improvement, with r57shell)
Genesis: Adventures of Batman & Robin (with Truncated); Pocahontas; Comix Zone (improvement); Mickey Mania (improvement); RoboCop versus The Terminator (improvement); Gargoyles (with feos)
25 to 57 smallest jump 13frames to peak
9frames to shoot 19 frames to shoot at face level
jump at 20 shoot forty
version 2 has some progress, only 3 more hits to kill the first boss, it's hard to aim the shots with donald so it will take me a while to see, soon we'll have a comparison between the 2 strats.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/50936052440816835
i'll improve the second strategy more before going further,
sky3 done, now i have to find a way to manipulate the second boss
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
sky 3 was obviously faster without extra switches cause donald wasnt separate enough from mickey to justify making donald faster, i tested it anyway but didn't save cause it was at least 200 frames slower, i didn't find any improvements to the boss cause i'm not in control of how far he throws the projectiles,
If he always did close double shots, i'd be able to reflect earlier and then try to cast a spell on the second one. Think megaman X TAS history if you want to have a comparison on how it can be improved.
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/50952095785941658
the second boss seems a little sneaky, i'm not finding ways to get him to do something else after the first hit and i can't just take that invencible jump of his at all.
Link to video
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/MagicalQuest3-StarringMickey&Donald(J)-Stage5-ShellOcean-Area2.png
drowning in a calculated way made us get by obstacles, but i want to test a little more in the last section, cause if I drown before the fishes i can go upwards and try to avoid the underwater currents
current water1 version starts fade out at53582, will try just a little more there going up53442 with taking damage(lag 18457),for some reason taking damage is faster than not taking damage i can't seem to find what it is, i also noticed the version of the route i take damage has 50frames of lag less at the last drowning of donald. Drowning lags more than taking damage while in the celing,
i guess i have to minimize drowning, after minimizing stopping movement
EDIT: new framecount, by taking hits instead of drowning 53362(lag 18320), and minimized hits and got 53330(lag 18396), i'm done with water1
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/51560890257500190
i can skip a section on water 2, with 2 suicides! I barely have any lives left but it will be cool, magic donald propels mickey to door area mickey just leaves and donald dies and spawns with forest suit on the pillar section already
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TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
The boss only can be manipulated by timing, right?
Liked the shortcuts on Water 2!
I haven't tested very thoroughly, but i believe it's that and whiffing moves that changes rng, i also need to test more possibilities for each part of the battle
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
so there's not much to correct in the octopus fight, but with different positioning and no frames wasted i managed to skip the background animation:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/51905106621583662
now it's stage6, the second to last stage in the game, we're getting there, BOIS
http://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/MagicalQuest3-StarringMickey&Donald(J)-Stage6-SnowMountain-Area1.png,
the snow gimmick we'll create some trouble and we won't be able to take advantage of the terrain in the exact same way we're used to.
EDIT: maybe i'll try something extra in the octopus fight to see if it saves time
EDIT2: i tried rolling with donald on the barrel, but i wasted 6 frames lol
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/52508496880912652
snow piles up on the chars feet, you can press backwards for one frame to break it, and some jumps and actions simply activate and deactivate the possibility of snow piling up again, lasso throws reactivate it for sure
i changed suits so i could use the slopes better since the medieval suit doesn't seem to be affected by it and there were lots of tests into how to carry the speed ahead
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
we're almost there, i've done almost the whole final stage, i'm just testing all the strats for third area, which is the last platforming section, only bosses after this part, one is a refight with the pirate dog,a fight with the skinny magician and pete and his suits
This is the knight suit version of the last platforming section, i'm trying to improve the magic suit version and will post it later:
http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/53225522597963290
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
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