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Posted: 9/29/2006 11:54 PM
Post subject: I'm not normally one to bring up political matters, but...
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If you live in the United States, you should be aware that S. 3930 passed congress today. The full text of the law is available here.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 11:57 PM
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Posted: 9/30/2006 12:00 AM
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Half of that isn't so bad. The other half is terrible.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 12:03 AM
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If the list of things near the top of the first link is true and not exaggerated, that does sound pretty damn crazy. I'm guessing it's not really quite as bad as that list is making it out to be though. Hopefully.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 12:09 AM
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The bill's official title wrote:
A bill to authorize trial by military commission for violations of the law of war, and for other purposes.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 12:13 AM
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|-> allow police to search through your home without a search warrant |-> allow the government to convict people of crimes on the basis of secret evidence that the accused never sees |-> allow the government to imprison people without telling them what crimes they are being charged with Now that is such a big pile of bullshit (bushshit?) from the govs, they must be kidding. o_0
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Posted: 9/30/2006 1:48 AM
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This even furthers my decision to move out of this police state where the rich run everything. Democracy? More like plutocracy.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 2:09 AM
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Damn, why did I come here? Considering that this tiny village has the highest cops per inhabitant rate I have ever seen I think I should fly home before I will be convicted because of walking on the sidewalks while listening to my mp3-player...
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:18 AM
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I'm glad people are taking notice of this. America is turning into [insert favorite fictional dystopian future] more and more every year. Has Bush managed to cheat himself a third term yet?
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:27 AM
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I heard he could get a third term as long as it's not consecutive!
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:29 AM
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Bag of Magic Food wrote:
I heard he could get a third term as long as it's not consecutive!
Nope.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:32 AM
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spockybiemmichab wrote:
I think I should fly home before I will be convicted because of walking on the sidewalks while listening to my mp3-player...
Don't run. The RIAA knows where you are.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:32 AM
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How come few people protest crap like this? Is there that much fear and lack of majority in the US?
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:33 AM
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Political participation is very low. Those in power enact laws to retain that power. Etc.
Posted: 9/30/2006 3:34 AM
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L4yer wrote:
How come few people protest crap like this? Is there that much fear and lack of majority in the US?
Of course there's a majority. The people in government got there via majority vote.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:35 AM
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Kind of sad isn't it? The country with what seems to be the most freedom (politically speaking) also has the lowest turn-out for votes and political activeness. .... BUT WOH CARES LOL
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:37 AM
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Vidar wrote:
Kind of sad isn't it? The country with what seems to be the most freedom (politically speaking) also has the lowest turn-out for votes and political activeness. .... BUT WOH CARES LOL
lol what?
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:38 AM
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L4yer wrote:
How come few people protest crap like this? Is there that much fear and lack of majority in the US?
How come people only bitch about this stuff when a republic is in office?
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:39 AM
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adelikat wrote:
L4yer wrote:
How come few people protest crap like this? Is there that much fear and lack of majority in the US?
How come people only bitch about this stuff when a republic is in office?
That does not sound like you adelikat. I'm slightly surprised.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:40 AM
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what specifically doesn't sound like me?
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:42 AM
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Seriously though, this does not sound fun... I hope the Supreme Court's fair enough to throw the constitution at it.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:43 AM
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kwinse wrote:
I hope the Supreme Court's fair enough to throw the constitution at it.
throw the what at them?
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:43 AM
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You missed all the freedom-killing stuff the Democrats did that I can't think of right now
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:44 AM
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The Constitution, you know? The "supreme law of the land" and all that.
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Posted: 9/30/2006 3:44 AM
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I wonder if this officially elevates Bush from normal villian to cartoonish super-villain? Why would the articles in this bill need to be passed anyways?
|-> give George W. Bush amnesty for any war crimes he has committed
When you see a summary like that, isn't it basically an admission of guilt that war crimes have been committted? Or worse, that he's now got carte-blanche? My oppressed neighbours to the south, Canada welcomes you with open arms; the beer's better, smoking pot is only frowned-upon by authorities and health care's covered ;)
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