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Posted: 8/11/2013 9:59 AM

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got4n

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mmh about 9001. Joking, i'm tasing actually 3 projects.

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Posted: 8/11/2013 11:37 PM

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got4n

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Here WIP 2 Link to video

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Posted: 8/13/2013 3:55 AM

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Upon initial tests in the beta version of Bizhawk that supports n64, the glitch preventing us from completion does not exist. For those of you who remember, the cave of bad dreams boss would fall off the edge in an emulation error and the game would cease to function. The game does not do this with the with new version. Upon official release Got4n, myself and anyone who wants to help can begin work.

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:23 AM

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Just thinking would PS Rayman 2 (for a tas) create a different category to the n64 version due to level shrinkages and changes? Like Resident Evil only difference is one was console and the other handheld (I don't know about major differences)

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Posted: 8/13/2013 12:12 PM

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got4n

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Upon initial tests in the beta version of Bizhawk that supports n64, the glitch preventing us from completion does not exist. For those of you who remember, the cave of bad dreams boss would fall off the edge in an emulation error and the game would cease to function. The game does not do this with the with new version.

Yup since i'm tester of BizHawk :P !

Just thinking would PS Rayman 2 (for a tas) create a different category to the n64 version due to level shrinkages and changes? Like Resident Evil only difference is one was console and the other handheld (I don't know about major differences)

Yeah, when I asked to feos he said me that it'll be different category due to all differences

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Posted: 8/13/2013 5:25 PM

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You should change the resolution to low, because it is faster. The section where you climb between the parallel rocks looks unoptimized. Movement in general looks good, but not perfect. But it may be because Rayman 2 doesn't allow very many angles.

Posted: 8/13/2013 8:00 PM

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got4n

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Thanks for your report: 1.Nope, I tried it does not seems, the game still generate lag every 2 frames 2. The section where you climb between the parallel rocks looks unoptimized. I did everything at first frame 3.Movement in general looks good, but not perfect. But it may be because Rayman 2 doesn't allow very many angles. Yup it may be possible

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:12 PM

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No, it's just un-optimized. I would recommend not starting working on this TAS until you can figure out (or practice) running in a straight line using MHS and facing values. Otherwise I don't see this being tolerable as it is currently (my opinion, yes, I tend to appreciate highly-optimized TASes way more than fast-made ones).

Posted: 8/13/2013 9:36 PM

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got4n

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Well If I get stuck in a wall at start to skip murfy text

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Posted: 8/13/2013 9:37 PM

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Thanks Nahoc. I'll take a look and see if there are any changes I can make. The running in this game is hard and so are the camera angles.Thanks for the tip.

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Posted: 8/14/2013 10:55 AM

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got4n

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Oh wait, it's right changing Resolution produces less lags! The game was lagframe-frame-lagframe-lagframe now its: lagframe-frame-frame-lagframe-lagframe

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Posted: 8/15/2013 12:33 AM

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If you need someone else for this project, I would be glad to help you. This game is one of my favorite games of all times ! :D Anyway, I agree with Nahoc : the current WIP is correct but unoptimized, especially when you climb between the rocks.

Posted: 8/15/2013 3:18 AM

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shredwot

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Hopefully you can also get ledge boost jumps to work without desynching. That trick ontop of CoBD boss suiciding is one of the main problems I encountered.

Posted: 8/15/2013 3:26 AM

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got4n wrote:

Here WIP 2 Link to video

Also i really like this, theres a few optimizations i see in this that i might try like jumping later for the first lum to use jump decceleration to get to the ground faster. Another thing i want to see is if going over the hill at :50 is faster than going around it.

Posted: 8/15/2013 11:34 AM

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If you could add me in Skype :got4n123

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Posted: 8/16/2013 2:04 AM

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I'm going to test a murphy text skip. For the first lum, the gate does not start opening until your get the lum. Also, when you roll, at the end you come to a complete stop, your speed goes to zero and it costs a few frames to start running again. With some optimization, shooting at the right point will provent the stop to zero and merely slow you down a bit. This will save time.

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Posted: 8/16/2013 12:12 PM

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Another WoL WIP: Link to video I put some stuff in the description but if you can't be assed opening the video in youtube then I'll post the basics of this video. Things that can be optimized: 0:33 By using a jumps downward acceleration and better movement to Lum 4 I can possibly save 3 seconds. 1:00 If I could boost jump here and then do globox text skip without getting caught on the ceiling I can possibly save 1 second. Boost jumping is a trick that allows you to jump on the last possible frame you're on a ledge so you travel a lot further. 1:20 This wall climbing section may look slow but it's as optimized as it can get, every jump is frame perfect. If I decide to wait a few frames and then jump closer to the gap so I can climb up without grabbing the ledge on the top it doesn't appear to save anytime. Also what funnyhair suggested aswell in this WIP I shoot the second ball just after landing to cancel the roll which looks like it does save time. An update on the TAS of Fairy Glades: I have TAS'd up to the explosive barrels when you have to save Ly, one problem is that grabbing the barrels can also cause a desync so it's definitely a lot more frustrating then I had anticipated. I could make a WIP to the loading zone just before seeing Ly and see if anyone has suggestions on timesavers with the route I used.

Posted: 8/16/2013 8:37 PM

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got4n

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Thanks for helpong us, we are working on our tas But this Wip is again suboptimal!

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Posted: 9/6/2013 4:30 PM

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We seems to did the escape part with funnyhair1: We may improve it : Link to video If you're asking why i'm hitting a wall twice it's because when you hit a wall, you get pushed down and with an certain angle you can keep your speed while pushed down and since there is a downward slope with the wall you can gain more speed by doing a jump while an upward slope!

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Posted: 9/6/2013 7:40 PM
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Here the first level: Link to video

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Posted: 9/7/2013 10:07 AM

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got4n wrote:

Here the first level: Link to video

Very nice, good to see that the first slide was TASed aswell. Do you know how many frames it was from the frame you get control of rayman to the frame that the cutscene starts? I had 748 so im hoping that you have improved that as I had a bit of trouble optimizing it. Hope to see more WIPs soon

Posted: 9/7/2013 11:10 AM

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Looks really good! Keep up the great work. Was the YT screenshot chosen intentionally?

Posted: 9/7/2013 1:57 PM

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shredwot: If you could give me your movie or tell me the first frame when cutscene at end of slidign appears more easy :p (thanks) (from the first frame when I can move and here http://prntscr.com/1pv3bo There is 692 frames Warepire: Thanks! and no it was total random but true that is fucking epic :)

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Posted: 9/10/2013 9:35 AM

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got4n wrote:

shredwot: If you could give me your movie or tell me the first frame when cutscene at end of slidign appears more easy :p (thanks) (from the first frame when I can move and here http://prntscr.com/1pv3bo There is 692 frames

Oh wow, yeah your slide section is a lot faster, good job. I think the wall boosting that you're able to do definitely helps gain more speed. I saw manocheese find a new timesaver in Woods of Light right before globox skip which can save even more frames. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMw35X75tcc It's the first one in this video if you haven't seen it.

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