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Posted: 4/16/2006 3:07 PM
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Fabian
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How much faster was JXQ compared to Teri's run?
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Posted: 4/16/2006 3:19 PM
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OgreSlayeR
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I'm tied with JXQ with frames at the end. I was 2 frames faster but lost those later due to randomness. I really do hate Ceres...
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Posted: 4/16/2006 5:59 PM
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yarbles
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Was hoping we were going to see another WIP but it looks like we're better off waiting for the final submission.
Posted: 4/16/2006 6:19 PM
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Ceres station rocks! I can't believe you hate that place. Seriously, why would you hate Ceres station?
Posted: 4/16/2006 6:25 PM
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OgreSlayeR
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Here's an idea I had. Probably is slower, but it does look cool. :) PS: Ceres still sucks.
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Posted: 4/16/2006 6:37 PM
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Graveworm
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It's always worth trying, if you can get through the door afterwards.
Posted: 4/16/2006 11:31 PM
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Graveworm wrote:
Ceres station rocks! I can't believe you hate that place. Seriously, why would you hate Ceres station?
1) Because the game clock and frame count are not perfectly correlated 2) Slightly random fadeout time depending on how you enter doors 3) Samus doesn't have any fun or fast abilities yet 4) It's boring to look at (very dark) 5) It's boring to listen to, for the first half anyway At least, this is why I hate it :)
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Posted: 4/16/2006 11:32 PM
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Fabian
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JXQ, Less forum posting, more movie submitting please. Always helpful, Fabian
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Posted: 4/17/2006 12:14 AM
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OgreSlayeR
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That bomb Tech saves 23 frames! Everybody say YAY. Here's two movies that I used to compair. Well, in a real movie it won't be as much of a frame gain as you would Mockball in that area if you were only planting one. I planted the bomb on the movie that didn't plant them both at the same frame as the one that did, so it would be an equal comparison. I might make two movies that start on the ground at the edge of the platform just to see how many frames I would really get.
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Posted: 4/17/2006 2:56 PM
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I know this is kind of late but does the grappling beam-route really save time when getting the Sping Ball (As opposed to freezing an enemy and jumping through the floor/cealing)? I think the latter looks faster but then you have to get into the menu and enable Ice Beam. EDIT: I just read that you've almost completed the game which obviously means that this won't matter anyway. Good work man!
Posted: 4/17/2006 3:44 PM
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When looking only at the Spring Ball area, it is faster to use the freezing in game-time by a lot, and they are very close to even in real-time (due to the extra door sequence). However, I don't have the Ice Beam when I get to this point, because collecting it early takes more time than it does to kill Crocomire normally vs. plasma beam. So overall, the route is faster, just not in the Spring Ball area.
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Posted: 4/17/2006 3:54 PM
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Just wondering, your not going to use the Muder Beam Glitch are you? From what I have seen so far, great run.
Posted: 4/17/2006 3:55 PM
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The Murder Beam is about 15 seconds slower in real-time. So, no.
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Posted: 4/17/2006 4:29 PM
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How long until the final version?
Posted: 4/17/2006 6:17 PM
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Graveworm
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The "bomb tech" saves at most 3-5 frames, I'm not sure the gain would be that big though, since I didn't bother to test anything else, it might be possible to save more than that though, if another technique is found.
Posted: 4/17/2006 6:34 PM
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OgreSlayeR
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Even if it only saves 1 frame I'd be happy. It looks cooler than the current method and is new.
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Posted: 4/17/2006 6:37 PM
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Sure, I didn't say it was a bad thing. Anyway, when's the next movie file coming? I want to see if there's something new I didn't know of included. :)
Posted: 4/17/2006 6:40 PM
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I'll release the first real WIP at the first missles which should be shortly if I can figure out why I keep loosing a frame in this one area. Hopefully I can come up with a lot more stuff like that bomb tech. There isn't much room for innovation at this early in the run, though.
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Posted: 4/17/2006 6:45 PM
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Graveworm
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Losing a frame compared to what? Or do you get stuck?
Posted: 4/17/2006 6:48 PM
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OgreSlayeR
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I'm loosing a frame on the turf that is above the hole the leads to the bomb torizo. Somehow JXQ gets slightly more arm pumping without falling off the rough slopes than I, so I'm landing one frame later. It could be that I shot the door leading to the room too early, but that doesn't make sense.
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Posted: 4/18/2006 12:01 AM
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JXQ wrote: "I should be done with this within a week." Anyone know how many minutes in game time this might turn out to be? Somewhere around 40-42? I have a run that doesn't do arm pumping or some nice other things, AND he/she wastes time fooling around looking at the animals (bird underground and the monkeys) do ALL of their thing, and the in game time turns out to be 47 minutes. I'd imagine it would be somewhere around 40.
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Posted: 4/18/2006 12:02 AM
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The much more important question is WHEN WILL THIS BE DONE!
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Posted: 4/18/2006 12:04 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with this situation here...........
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Posted: 4/18/2006 12:38 AM
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I believe he can do even sub-40min. Let's just wait and surprise ourself when this appears in the workbench this week (hopefully). :-)
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Posted: 4/18/2006 9:45 AM
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I want everyone to write several WTF:s WOW:s and OMG:s etc when he ha submitted it :) Oh and he said he would at latest submit it this friday so hang in there!
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I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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