Topic by JXQ

Posted: 12/24/2006 4:20 AM

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JXQ

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Short version: Saturn's right. I'll try saying it a different way: if you morph too far above ground, then mockball won't start. However, if you hold jump when you do land, then you'll keep speed and bounce (if you have spring ball), but you won't be able to control the jump's height. In this case, you have not actually done the mockball - you just may think you have since you are keeping speed in ball form, but in this case you can't control your jump height. To see if you've done mockball, do not jump at all when morphing into the ball, and see if you keep your speed in morph ball form along the ground, or if you do a low bounce and lose your speed. If that doesn't work, watch the existing run on SNES9x and compare it to what you're doing to see what you might be doing wrong. But if you can't control the jump amount, then you aren't doing the mockball right.

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Posted: 12/24/2006 12:42 PM

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DeFender1031

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JXQ i got it. i've noticed that once i jump in mockball (full height or not) i have to keep bouncing or else i lose it on the ground. Is there a way not to lose it? (not that it matters one way or another, i can do a series of low jumps to keep it going, but just wondering.)

Posted: 12/24/2006 1:52 PM

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JXQ

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As far as I know, you have to jump continually or you'll lose the speed.

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Posted: 12/25/2006 8:15 PM

Post subject: door to plasma beam gray

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DeFender1031

Joined: 8/29/2006
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the door that leads out of the big room in maridia to the area where the plasma beam is is gray. What do i have to do to open it?

Posted: 12/25/2006 8:48 PM

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4matsy

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Kill Draygon. :p

Posted: 12/28/2006 5:58 PM

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bohmana

Joined: 12/28/2006
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just a question, How many frames are there per second in this game??

Posted: 12/28/2006 6:01 PM

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moozooh

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As in every other SNES (assuming USA/Japanese region) game, 60.

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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:08 AM
(Edited: 1/2/2007 9:22 AM)

Post subject: Super Metroid No Boss/Mini Boss run

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Kilo_Joules

Joined: 1/1/2007
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Would an NBMB run be accepted on this site even though it doesn't complete the game? I think that one would be good to watch because of the usage of glitches etc.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:13 AM

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mushroom

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A what?

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Posted: 1/2/2007 9:15 AM

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Kilo_Joules

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Sorry, a no boss/miniboss run. You have to get as many items as possible without killing any bosses or minibosses after the torizo that gives you the bombs.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:15 AM

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moozooh

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A no Boss/MiniBoss run. It is a cleanup run of entire Zebes's map which doesn't involve killing any of the bosses or minibosses except for Torizo. IMO, it would be incredibly boring to watch since some of the items require one hell of a setup, sometimes including world wrapping (travelling outside the room's boundaries for 255 screens). Remember that in a TAS, if something is possible (no matter how barely), it has to be done. And that includes getting out of the rooms if needs be. On the other hand, it may be better as a series of SMVs, each showing a way to get a certain item.

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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:18 AM

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Kilo_Joules

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That's a good point with the world wrapping thing... Oh well.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:28 AM

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moozooh

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Don't get discouraged, though: one of the two runs Saturn is working on currently (and by currently, I mean a long time and a lot more ahead) is pretty much a NBMB run in its essence, since it doesn't get either of the suits, doesn't kill any of the minibosses except Torizo and Botwoon who are unskippable, and kills all the bosses in reverse order, getting most of the useful items before Ridley. So technically, it's a Reverse Boss Order/Suitless/No Miniboss run. :D

Warp wrote:

Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:29 AM

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Kilo_Joules

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Oooh, cool. I'll watch out for that.

Posted: 1/2/2007 9:56 AM

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Tompa

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This run actually excist: http://www.archive.org/details/SuperMetroid_NBMB72_divx

Posted: 1/2/2007 10:37 AM

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Kilo_Joules

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Yeah, thats actually the run that made me want to see a TAS of it.

Posted: 1/2/2007 11:10 AM

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Brushy

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Why do people create new topics for games that already have a topic? :/

Posted: 1/2/2007 12:49 PM

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JXQ

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NBMB is boring and the idea is flawed from the start. I can't imagine why it was published over at M2K2 (not to mention the quality of the run is very low). Brushy, the Super Metroid topic is pretty bloated so I don't see it as a problem to create another topic.

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Posted: 1/2/2007 2:17 PM

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DeFender1031

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leaving boundaries? world wrapping? skipping bosses? sounds too complicated for me. I'm just going back to playing super metroid and to beat it the right way...

Posted: 1/2/2007 2:55 PM

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mushroom

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Yeah, that world wrapping thing I've never heard of. Anyone care to splain?

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Posted: 1/2/2007 3:36 PM

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P.JBoy

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You get stuck in a door then you do the X-Ray Climb which consists of constantly crouching and force standing (force standing is when you stop scanning while turning around). Once you go through 255 screens, you go 1 room to the right

Posted: 1/2/2007 3:52 PM

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JXQ

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Even if you don't use any screen-wrapping glitches (which I'm guessing gets you 3 or 4 more items possible at the most), this is a boring idea, and it's so anti-climatic it's disgusting.

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Posted: 1/2/2007 3:54 PM

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AngerFist

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Hi. You could always improve Terimakasih's minimalist run. But I think moozooh will try to improve that run after his ReDesign TAS run. Edit:

JXQ wrote:

it's so anti-climatic it's disgusting

^_^

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

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Posted: 1/2/2007 4:06 PM

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JXQ

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Saturn is also working on any%. It would be ironic to have two or three versions of that run completed after it's been out-of-date for so long :)

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Posted: 1/2/2007 4:09 PM

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AngerFist

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JXQ wrote:

Saturn is also working on any%. It would be ironic to have two or three versions of that run completed after it's been out-of-date for so long :)

You just worry about your own run, dont let that prick Saturn or moozooh disturb you you royal highness. By the way, how is the run going?..

Nitrogenesis wrote:

Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!

Arc wrote:

I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.

natt wrote:

I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it

Cooljay wrote:

Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P