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Posted: 12/18/2008 5:57 PM
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Comicalflop
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Speedy TAS of 2009
*sigh* it is possible to boot up, but impossible to beat. Get the facts straight.
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Posted: 12/19/2008 12:35 AM
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heh, A while ago I was playing around with BT and seeing if using a different region would allow me to get past the fire egg switch. Not wanting to have to do everything again, I used the same .eep file for all four regions (A, U, J, E) with surprising results I might add. I thought loading the same .eep file would give me the same save but I was mistaken. With only 7 Jiggies, I had unlocked every level in the game and completed the trivia quiz, just by loading an external .eep file (still, however the fire egg door, was still closed. Also AKA is sort of right; the japanese version of the rom does not get past the opening cutscene before it crashes.
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Posted: 10/1/2009 3:10 PM
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blahmoomoo
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The guys over at Mupen64Plus just made Banjo-Tooie get past the fire egg switch! The emulator's bug apparently had something to do with not handling changing CPU modes properly. I wonder if this means that DK64 will work now... unless it already has been working. http://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/issues/detail?id=51 So if it ever gets rerecording capabilities, this game can be done! (assuming there are no other game stopping glitches)
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Posted: 10/1/2009 4:14 PM
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bkDJ
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blahmoomoo wrote:
The guys over at Mupen64Plus just made Banjo-Tooie get past the fire egg switch!
Holy crap, finally! Now that we know the issue, (and that issue thread is pretty informative), couldn't the fix be back-ported to mupen64?
Posted: 10/2/2009 5:45 AM
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In case anyone decides to TAS this in the near future: The diving glitch (Z+C while walking off a ledge over water) works extremely well with the split-up moves. Kazooie's egg-hatching move and Banjo's sack hop and nap moves in particular will get you to the bottom of any body of water and into a few places you shouldn't be able to go solo. And they look hilarious.
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Posted: 10/3/2009 8:49 PM
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MezzoDragon
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To whoever decides to do a TAS for this game: When doing mini-games, such as the Flying Saucer one, will you try to get all the targets? Since such games are on a rail with a fixed speed, getting all of the targets may be cool to watch, no? Sorry for asking a very stupid question.
Posted: 10/3/2009 9:20 PM
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Captain_Forehead
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Of course it would, it wouldn't be a TAS without completing the mini-games perfectly. ;)
Posted: 10/3/2009 9:21 PM
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Don't we need to figure out all the "randomized from start" stuff first? Like Jinjo color locations if you're not going for 100%, the locations of the polar bear kids at Witchyworld, various passwords and other things like the treasures in Jolly Roger's Lagoon. I would think you want to find where the choices are located in memory, when they're decided, how you can manipulate them, and which combination of random elements makes for the quickest run. Though, I guess that first you have to find out all the possibilities the normal way...
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Posted: 10/3/2009 9:31 PM
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funnyhair
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If anyone wants to make this a teamed effort, i would be glad to jump on board. I love this game.
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Posted: 10/3/2009 9:39 PM
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I'll probably try to find some tricks and glitches I guess. I'm free all day right now.
Posted: 10/3/2009 9:54 PM
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Therealssjlink
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I don't know if people would be adverse to this, but I suggest using the cheats to make banjo and kazooie move more quickly and make the enemies move more quickly (to balance it out). The characters walk too slowly in this game.
Posted: 10/11/2009 10:26 AM
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Sami
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Maybe I do this one too...I need to think about it =) I can imagine the routeplanning and its a nightmare...lot more complex tha kazooie... And no cheats! If I do this, i wont use any cheats =)
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Posted: 10/12/2009 3:58 AM
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onReload
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Sami wrote:
Maybe I do this one too...I need to think about it =) I can imagine the routeplanning and its a nightmare...lot more complex tha kazooie... And no cheats! If I do this, i wont use any cheats =)
That would be amazing, Sami...and yeah I don't even do much with TAS, but just trying to imagine a route gives me a headache...then again I only 100%'d the game, I don't remember the minimal requirements... unless you're going for 100%, which would be a looooooooooong movie...it was fine with BK because it's such a classic but BT isn't as much... but an any% would still kick ass
Posted: 10/12/2009 12:19 PM
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EEssentia
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There is a run of BT at SDA. Perhaps the route from there could be used until a better one can be found? I am eager to see a first TAS of the game. Subsequent ones would only be better, no, so what is the harm?
Posted: 1/6/2010 11:26 PM
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Think it's possible to get to Wooded Hollow with 0 Jiggies using the roof in the picture below? EDIT: *White Jinjo house* and it was found possible by Kyman, though it's not possible Jiggy-less.
Posted: 1/7/2010 3:57 PM
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MezzoDragon
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Even if a 100% TAS is going to be long (albeit shorter than the SDA run), I would watch it in its entirety. Besides, having 100% on the shooting parts will be cool, no?
Posted: 1/16/2010 9:16 PM
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WarPyxis wrote:
Think it's possible to get to Wooded Hollow with 0 Jiggies using the roof in the picture below?
Your wish is my command. Do note that you can't do it with 0 jiggies because when you get to the door there is a invisible wall and King J says NO!
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Posted: 1/20/2010 8:25 PM
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WarPyxis
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Kyman's right, I tested it myself. Though we can't get to Wooded Hollow Jiggy-less, this still might save some time on the route to Wooded Hollow.
Posted: 1/20/2010 9:08 PM
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Yeah but who is going to do any% TAS? =) When I started my own, its 100% like BK =)
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Posted: 1/20/2010 9:10 PM
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I'm confused, how wouldn't that be useful for 100%?
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Posted: 1/21/2010 5:08 AM
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why are these posts being copied in both threads? (the banjo kazooie thread and this one? wouldn't it be more efficient to only have them in one area?)
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese [19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
Posted: 1/30/2010 6:31 PM
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WarPyxis
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Yeah, sorry about that... I just saw Banjo Kazooie and post without thinking.
Posted: 1/31/2010 10:29 AM
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Kitsune
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I would watch a Any% and a 100% TAS for this game. This game isn't as good as the first, but it's still a decent game.
Posted: 1/31/2010 3:00 PM
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MezzoDragon
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Same here. Though, I'd rather see a 100% TAS than an any%. Both will be interesting, nonetheless.
Posted: 6/30/2010 6:36 PM
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Sami
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I'm thinking to start TASing this game =) I wonder does it run in emulator bug free now? If anybody have beat this game on emulator without any bugs and erros, let me now. 100% completion is even better. And if anybody know where to get some world maps of this game I would like to see those, I can't do routeplanning without those :)
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