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Posted: 12/17/2006 9:07 PM
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laughing_gas
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thanks, i might get the controller if i have enough spare time. The tas input plugin looks a bit ... complicated to use.
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Posted: 12/17/2006 9:33 PM
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ZeXr0
Joined: 8/27/2006
Posts: 883
If you have a playstation controller, you can buy a PSX to USB for about that price, maybe a little less, I think it was 25$CND for the converter at "La Source by Circuit City". You might be able to find one. I just think it's a good value if you play Guitar Hero (Frets on fire) or DDR (StepMania).
Posted: 12/17/2006 9:39 PM
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laughing_gas
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^I don't have a ps1 controller either. If I get a new desktop computer, i might resume working on this, but right now I'm working on chessmaster for snes. I don't know if anyone's interested in that game, but if there is sufficient interest I might create a new topic for it.
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Posted: 7/12/2008 9:33 AM
Post subject: Mario Party 3
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GuidMorrow
Joined: 4/30/2008
Posts: 89
Location: Northeast Kansas USA, GMT -06:00
Personally my game of choice since I already have this cart for the N64. I was hoping that some day with the latest modification to Mupen64, I could make a "hard-difficulty" Mario Party with some crazy-ass luck manipulation. This is what TAS'ing movies is all about, right? Imagine gathering the whole world for hours upon hours of extreme carnage as the Mario Party crew tear up the game boards to become the greatest superstar in the universe! Of course, some ill-hearted characters are also in the race for the grand title as well. Not sure if Hudson games were designed where it corrupts itself when it's copied in rom file format, but we'll just have to see, but in the meantime, what would you think if I did a short demo run of Mario Party 3 first?
Posted: 7/12/2008 10:23 AM
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jspecakord
Joined: 5/26/2008
Posts: 11
Hi, there is already a topic for this particular game: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4777&highlight= A quick question since this thread is revived, what graphics plugins are the best for playing this game? I've tried all of the ones of Mupen (Rice, Jabo) but there are some fuzzy lines and occasional flashes during the game, especially in the Duel map.
Posted: 7/29/2008 7:34 AM
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L337
Joined: 12/25/2007
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Location: Muhos, Finland
Comicalflop wrote:
not if you get a USB configurable controller, like the one I have. (not the exact model, but close enough.)
Oh god, I had that controller, and it never workd over 3weeks whithout having troubles using it >____> after I thorw'ed it into wall, I buy'd smartjoyplus, and it still works (I buy'd it around 3-4years ago) and none problems at all:)
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Posted: 7/29/2008 10:09 PM
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Comicalflop
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Speedy TAS of 2009
Really? I've had mine for almost 2 years now, never had any problems ever.
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Posted: 7/30/2008 7:35 AM
Post subject: Re: Mario Party 3
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Walker_Boh
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laughing_gas wrote:
There are some major questions to consider: 1) what determines the starting location of the stars on the map and the order in which they appear? 2) use all minigames or only the easy ones? 3) which minigames would be fastest to complete? 4) Is it faster to buy stars or steal them using Boo/chance time? 5) which partner would be most useful during the duels? 6) Is it beneficial to move 10 steps every turn? 7) can you manipulate the items Toad/baby Bowser give you after you answer their question? 8) Would buying the magic lamp, getting 20 coins and then using the lamp be any faster than just getting 20 coins and reaching the star? 9) Where are the locations of the spots where, if you land on them, they give you an item, and can you manipulate them to give you a star every time? 10) Does the emulation encounter frequent desynchs? Any comments or opinions?
I'm only two years late on this I think, better late than never I hope. Anyway, I haven't played Mario Party 3 actually, but I've played MP1 and MP2 quite a lot. The concept should be the same, so here's my view of the concept: 1. No idea 2. I'd say use them all. 3. No idea, but is that really the issue for this partical game? As I see it this should be rather a show of a great game than a pure TAS aiming for fastest speed. While some mini-games might be a lot faster than others there shouldn't be an infinite amount of mini-games. Thus showing them all, or as many as possible, would in my opinion be the better option rather than manipulating the fastest over and over. 4. No idea. Probably a combination of stealing/buying. 5. Don't they all have the same abilities? If not, no idea. 6. From my experience from MP1 and MP2 I'd say that the number of step depends. If you want to be able to buy stars fast I guess you should aim for rolling 10. On the other hand from a TAS point of view rolling 1 would take conciderably less time for your character to move, and since the game doesn't end based on how many steps you have taken rolling 1 all the time sounds in theory like the better option. It all depends on the board of course and I guess the aim is to avoid traps and stuff like that. Hence as in point 3 I personally think that a pure TAS that aims for speed would be somewhat strange for this particular game. 7. Probably 8. No idea, maybe in some cases. 9. No idea 10. No idea So, to summarize. I'd love to see this game TAS'ed, but setting up valid goals for a TAS of this particular game could be hard. As seen in point 3 and 6 I think a broader show of the game would be much more entertaining than just getting it over with as fast as possible. Mini-games can still be frame perfect and such of course. But showing only the fastest would get dull. Atleast I think so.
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Posted: 8/12/2010 12:18 AM
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MUGG
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Someone on nicovideo made a TAS. 【TAS】マリオパーティ3　CPUにハンデをあげた Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 (Needs a nicovideo account) I'm not sure about the author. I'm not familiar with the game so I leave judging and commenting on this TAS up to others.
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Posted: 10/1/2010 2:53 AM
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sticktendo
Joined: 3/5/2010
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MUGG wrote:
Someone on nicovideo made a TAS. 【TAS】マリオパーティ3　CPUにハンデをあげた Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 (Needs a nicovideo account) I'm not sure about the author. I'm not familiar with the game so I leave judging and commenting on this TAS up to others.
That TAS was simply superb. My bricks were definitely shat.
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Posted: 7/10/2012 12:19 AM
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SammerZ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9UJloPY2k more people should tas this
Posted: 7/10/2012 8:07 PM
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RachelB
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SammerZ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9UJloPY2k more people should tas this
That is pretty much the definition of a bad game choice.
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:08 PM
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SammerZ
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not really.
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:10 PM
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RachelB
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All it does is answer questions. Using save states anyone can do the same exact thing in 20 seconds. There's nothing impressive about it.
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:19 PM
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SammerZ
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I did it just so I could upload something. Wasnt trying to impress anyone..
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:21 PM
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goofydylan8
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SammerZ wrote:
not really.
I have to agree with rog. That was only 34 seconds long and I couldn't make it through the whole thing. That isn't even running right for justice. That is 4 characters standing still and then Mario jumps straight up 3 times. It says that this was one of two mini-game runs done and was selected as the other one was too boring. If this was selected as the far more interesting of the two I can't even imagine how uninteresting the other mini-game must have been.
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:24 PM
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SammerZ
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Dude read the fucking description, I didnt upload the second mini game because it was barely watchable
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:25 PM
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RachelB
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goofydylan8 wrote:
If this was selected as the far more interesting of the two I can't even imagine how uninteresting the other mini-game must have been.
There are plenty of interesting mini games to tas in mario party. However, there are also a good amount of them that, like this, are entirely inappropriate for a tas. This wouldn't even be so terrible as part of a full game tas (assuming no other games like this were done), but by itself, all you're doing is answering questions that you know the answer to before the question is even asked.
Posted: 7/10/2012 10:31 PM
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ptorflaxendrosis
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SammerZ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9UJloPY2k more people should tas this
lol, I think any Mario Party minigame TASes are going to look like that since they're all pretty much the same thing. It's a very simple game to TAS. Maybe there are a few interesting minigames, but that's certainly not one of them
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Posted: 7/10/2012 10:34 PM
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goofydylan8
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SammerZ wrote:
Dude read the fucking description, I didnt upload the second mini game because it was barely watchable
Your first post was "more people should tas this" and you used this video as an example of why this game should be TAS'ed. I was responding to you getting defensive and telling rog that he was wrong for claiming it was a bad game choice. If you believe this run and a less entertaining minigame is a representative of what a run would be than I was saying that it would be a bad game choice. Also I know this is the internet where you can be anonymous and there aren't any rules expressly forbidding it, but you probably should not respond to people like that because it makes people not take you seriously.
Posted: 7/10/2012 11:55 PM
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SammerZ
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More people should TAS the game and I just made a post to try and encourage some more people to TAS the game, and I don't care if one of you reply saying something like "Oh people will see that video and see that the game isn't fun"... or something like that, seriously, get off my back.
Posted: 5/7/2013 7:53 AM
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Antoids
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7xJNAJys2s I was wondering if anyone had tried using a genetic algorithm to optimize Mario Party minigames. I imagine in the small doses they come in, with strictly defined victory conditions, it would be pretty effective.
Posted: 4/21/2018 5:27 PM
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Really_Tall
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Some sort of wrong warp into a glitched board was found by Xaltis: Link to video Her tweet: https://twitter.com/1upGirlXaltis/status/986534693037363200 And the full highlight of the run: http://www.twitch.tv/1upgirlxaltis/v/251789823 This needs researched to understand how it happened. If it's replicable for all boards then a glitched Story Mode TAS would be interesting... I hope someone figures it out!
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Posted: 7/9/2018 5:03 PM
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DecafGrub47393
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I decided that an update to the Story Mode TAS from 2009 was long overdue. While the TAS has amazing board luck, the minigames are where I see most potential for improvement (particularly eliminating minigame repeats). I am open to working on this as a collab.
Posted: 8/29/2021 1:05 AM
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Whiteted
Joined: 10/20/2019
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Location: UK
As part of TASpap, a Goldeneye hoard that just released, I decided to TAS Dizzy Dinghies 17.00 which was brought up by one of our top players Irie, who has the record and - at the time - TAS tie of 17.03 . I was in isolation for covid so it didn't really stand a chance >:) I reversed all the movement code and the collision to make a pyplot which could take an input file and plot the course. I'll clean it and upload it tomorrow sometime because it is good fun, and I only TASed courses 1 & 2, and 2 isn't very strong. I was very impressed at how rich the movement gets, since I originally set out to get a truely optimal time but it gets very complicated very quickly. Sure enough though, keeping the lines tight from the get go I got 17.00 on my first completion. The Mythical course 1 17.00 Course 2 21.90 (2 frames cut iirc) I also discovered a TAS-only trick which I've called Rapid Fire Drifting or RFD after Mariokart wii's Rapid Fire Hop. There is a separate speed cap and sorta "acceleration" value, and by pressing / releasing A on alternate frames you can maintain 98% speed cap while suppressing the acceleration. This lets you go into epic drifts, and is probably genuinely useful in the hairpins on courses 1 & 2. I didn't actually make use of it in any of my TASes, except in a skit for the hoard where Tony Hawk aka Mario does a 900 on course 1 :D Do see my post over on the Goldeneye board. Pic of the 17.00: Code will follow sometime
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