mtvf1 i think you're talkin about the glitch that also happens on mmbn TAS,this is a little different.I just jacked out on the undernet and planetmanv2 normally appeared where it should now,i haven't seen the V3 version though,only bass deluxe.
After beat planetmanV2, jack out again, and the planetmanV3 should appear.
Don't know where else to post but playing mmbn4:
i used a cheat to get the final 100% mark(the PA one)but didn't save for fear of corrupting the savefile.Duo SP did appear with the complete Pa library but i didn't get the special ending,as the savefile didn't have the PA mark on (the actual savefile doesn't have all PAs,i collected them with the cheat to face duo sp)
I tested both european and american BM RS for this and it occurs both ways.
By the way,there are a few games to 100%without multiplayer:
mmbn1,4,5,6
mmbn2 and 3 are the ones which need exclusive chips through multiplayer
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
I'm just messing around with causal plays of BN2 and 3 at the moment, but does anyone have the memory locations (or at least values to look for) for tracking style change progress?
E: I've got a lead in Combined Wram 0x2d60 through 0x2d70, but I got a rewind-induced crash before I could discern if I was barking up the wrong tree or not. Got a bizarrely-lucky-for-me virus battle out of it that I can use to really pin down Guts and Custom points in battle and rank growth post-battle. Too bad a new game is really hard to get Team and Shield points/ranks for.
can't answer ur question myself,but you should join the rockman exe zone because rom hackers there can help you with this kind of information.
http://forums.therockmanexezone.com/index/
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
#3837: mtvf1's GBA Mega Man Battle Network 2 in 1:38:35.28 has some details on folder locations (and more importantly for me, style counter locations) but I'm still quite a n00b when it comes to mapping gestalted addresses to domained addresses (that is to say, VBA style to BizHawk style). Which domain is 0x0200xxxx?
#3837: mtvf1's GBA Mega Man Battle Network 2 in 1:38:35.28 has some details on folder locations (and more importantly for me, style counter locations) but I'm still quite a n00b when it comes to mapping gestalted addresses to domained addresses (that is to say, VBA style to BizHawk style). Which domain is 0x0200xxxx?
For some reason, the value of Pi is six bytes at IWRAM 0x1200.
It looks like the address values correspond specifically to EWRAM. If nothing else the RNG is four bytes at EWRAM 0x9080
you can try looking at the action replay codes that mess with that part of the game
i'd like to note that MMBN2's hard mode changes all enemies stats except for BassDX
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
i played the intro of mmbn4 repeatedly until the tournament,and i believe the seeding is done when starting a new game,it simply never varied the results ,i saved right at the start of the game and went on till the brackets
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
i played the intro of mmbn4 repeatedly until the tournament,and i believe the seeding is done when starting a new game,it simply never varied the results ,i saved right at the start of the game and went on till the brackets
I think you must watch this nico's tas. he wait too long time at the beginning for the best luck. Did you test the save and reset? If it still havn't changed anything, I think some data be written into the save file when pressing the start.
Link to video
yes,i did reset,unfortunately it never changed,thanks for the confirmation and video too.
would be interesting if we had the rng adress for that specific part
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ski36uur91wssyj/AADfpqDQ4ajAQM2DYwFdgMOsa?dl=0
resources for researching the games,maybe there's more at the battle network speedrunning server on discord
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
https://go.twitch.tv/nmarkro
yeah,this guy is currently TASing mmbn4 red sun and they confirmed the info about the seeding, hopefully he can finish it cause he's almost done(just beat coldman today)
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
https://go.twitch.tv/nmarkro
yeah,this guy is currently TASing mmbn4 red sun and they confirmed the info about the seeding, hopefully he can finish it cause he's almost done(just beat coldman today)
Thanks for post it. It's seemed he didn't know how to go through the NPC, he just turn around them.
When in viruses battle, he didn't press pause for luck manipulation like other mmbn5 or 6 tas.
He didn't wait for long time at info like nico's did. I'm not sure he really got the best RNG. Because he choose the red sun? Not blue moon like nico's. Which is the faster version?
He didn't got Varsword, this chip is very useful.
Maybe we should make a new thread to talk about mmbn4.
If he can submit to tasvideos, I think it's worthy to publish.
Edit: He should get a very important chip copydamage* at the very beginning.
memory.usememorydomain("Combined WRAM")
frequency = 2
keysArray = {}
mode = "Stopped"
key_on_screen = {
[0] = "",
[1] = "",
[2] = "",
[3] = "A",
[4] = "B",
[5] = "L",
[6] = "R",
[7] = "Up",
[8] = "Down",
[9] = "Left",
[10] = "Right",
[11] = "",
[12] = ""
}
function initializeKeysArray()
keysArray = joypad.get()
end
function setMode(newMode)
mode = newMode
end
function simonSays()
q = memory.read_u8(0x7E78)
if not (q > 10 or q < 3) then
r = key_on_screen[q]
for i,v in pairs(keysArray) do
keysArray[i] = false
end
keysArray[r] = true
joypad.set(keysArray)
end
end
function core()
checkTime = emu.framecount() % frequency
if (checkTime == 0) then
if (mode == "Simon Says") then
simonSays()
end
end
end
initializeKeysArray()
controls = forms.newform(192,192,"MMBN3 Support")
stop = forms.button(controls,"Stop",function() setMode("Stopped") end,5,5)
simon = forms.button(controls,"Simon Says",function () setMode("Simon Says") end,5,35)
while true do
emu.frameadvance()
core()
end
Frequency 1 (60 Hz) is theoretically faster but fails if the requested button doesn't change.
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamBN
bn4 TAS by NMarkro was presented here, i'm sorry i forgot to post it here but the VOD will have it.
EDIT:
mtvf1,he skips copydamage because it can't be used with dark chips,which is what he uses most of the run
Link to videohttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/210273820?collection=OIInPlsPARVLrw
EDIT:apparently he's super lazy or spiteful and won't submit the run..
I'm leaving this 100 or BASS% routing notes for mmbn1 here instead:
MMBN1 Higsby Exclusives(things you have to buy):
Geddon1(shop in internet12),3k in Higsby,5k in internet12
Geddon2(shop in internet12 has it for the same price)8k
Interupt 8k
BstrSwrd 20k
SloGauge5k
FstGauge3k
Total cost: 47k
ElecSword can only be found in mystery data or bought in higsby for 5k so it will be manip.
Trade Exclusives:
dash G for repair H(grade1 classroom) for hammer M(waterworks office after iceman) for xpanel3 S(girl next to metroline ACDC) for busterbombD(storage in school at the
end of the game),FORGET REPAIR A
30metguardS for busterguard
howitzerH for busterpunch(any% already uses this)
if you can manip the chip trader completely, all the above can be subverted.
MegaMan Battle Network
-=+=- Guide to Leveling Up -=+=-
HPMem1
PowerUP3
Armor6
level 1 to 30(14hpmem and 15 from 5PowerUp) are free
FREE 14
1. Jack-in to Mayl's Servbot doll in her room.
2. Mystery Data inside the third area in the school's network.
3. Inside the cabinet in the school's storage room, where you rescue Ms. Mari.
4. Jack-in to the yellow car parked near the school statue.
5. Email from dad, after leaving a message with his caretaker program.
6. Check the lockers in the main control room of the Water Works.
7. Mystery data inside the second area of the Water Works' network, after running into ProtoMan.
8. Inside the fourth traffic light Lan and MegaMan jack-in to stop the runaway bus in Dentown.
9. After defeating Masa and SharkMan for the first time.
10. Jack-in to the Recycled PETs at the Restaurant.
11. Internet Area 4 using the WWW-pin.(
12. Internet Area 5 using the WWW-pin.
13. Internet Area 10, using the WWW-pin.
14. In WWW Lab Network Area 4, the ColorMan Lair.
FREE 5=15 levels for free
1. From Dad's email after leaving a message with the caretaker program.
2. Inside the Water Works' Main Network, in the area where you must fall through the ice to the paths below.
3. Jack-in to the Summer School's blackboard in Dentown.
4. Internet Area 2, using the WWW-pin.
5. Internet Area 14, using the WWW-pin.
List of Bought levels with total cost and individual cost(minimum 40):
6. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 2000z.PWRUP+3
15. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 500z.HPMEM1
16. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 1000z.HPMEM1
17. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 2000z.HPMEM1
7. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 5000z.PWRUP+3
Wood Armor - Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 15000z.ARMOR+6 (totalLVbought:15totalcost:25500z)
Heat Armor - Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 20000z.ARMOR+6 (totalLVbought:21totalcost:45500z)
Aqua Armor - Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 30000z.ARMOR+6 (totalLVbought:27totalcost:75500z)
18. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 3000z.
20. Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 4000z.
19. Net Merchant in Internet Area 1, buy for 5000z.12k(totalLVbought:30totalcost:87500z)
21. Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 6000z.
25. Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 6000z.
26. Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 8000z.20k(totalLVbought:33totalcost:107500z)
8. Net Merchant in Internet Area 5, buy for 20000z.PWRUP+3(totalLVbought:36totalcost:127500z)
9. Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 25000z.PWRUP+3(totalLVbought:39totalcost:152500z)
30. Net Merchant in Internet Area 5, buy for 8000z.Here ends buying if you got all the free levels.I won't calculate further.(totalLVbought:40totalcost:160500z)You buy all the HPmem until they cost 9k,all PowerUps until they cost more than 25k and all 3 armors because they give so many levels.This can be changed to accomodate speed in case you have reliable farming methods of zenny you think are faster than going this or that way,but keep in mind you'll probably have to go to many of these internet areas anyway.
22. Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 9000z.17k
27. Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 10000z.27k
23. Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 12000z.
24. Net Merchant in Internet Area 3, buy for 15000z.
28. Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 12000z.
29. Net Merchant in Internet Area 4, buy for 15000z.
31. Net Merchant in Internet Area 5, buy for 10000z.
32. Net Merchant in Internet Area 5, buy for 12000z.
33. Net Merchant in Internet Area 5, buy for 15000z.
34. Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 12000z.
35. Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 15000z.
36. Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 20000z.
37. Net Merchant in Internet Area 10, buy for 25000z.
38. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 12000z.
39. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 15000z.
40. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 20000z.
41. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 25000z.
42. Net Merchant in Internet Area 15, buy for 15000z.
43. Net Merchant in Internet Area 15, buy for 20000z.
44. Net Merchant in Internet Area 15, buy for 25000z.
45. Net Merchant in Internet Area 15, buy for 40000z.
10. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 25000z.PWRUP+3
11. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 50000z.PWRUP+3
12. Net Merchant in Internet Area 12, buy for 100000z.PWRUP+3
CONCLUSION:
I'm suggesting a Total of 207.5k if you don't manip the chip trader, and 160.5k if you have total control over it.
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
https://www.twitch.tv/dalus_exe
he finished routing and is running all chips/Bass%(basically 100% minus grinding for all upgrades) for MMBN1
The TAS of this category will possibly be even sub2h because of Chip Trader, contact him if you want to know more, he has his notes about the game in TeamBN discord
https://www.speedrun.com/mmbn#All_Chips
Current WR is 3h07m for All Chips!
About ChipTrader:
Muramasa and Anubis are available, but shadow, pharaoh and lifeaura aren't(175-7=162).
Because of Area 14 requirements, there are a number of chips that have to be gotten in Area 13 battles.
Area 14: You must win at least 10 chips in battle from enemies in Area 13.
Virus available in this area: All Swordy,Beetank3,All Canodumb,Coldbear,All Mettaur,Rush,Spooky3
Chips available in this area: FireSwrd, AquaSwrd,BigBomb,PopUp,Invis3,IceCube,Recov10/30/50/80/120/150/200,3 Cannon,3 Waves,Sword
All chips RTA choice:mole(very slow virus battle),BigBomb,AquaSwrd,FireSwrd,Mcannon,Soniwave2,Invis3,rcv200,rcv150,IceCube(elecswrd used here for a faster fight than RTA)
(162-10=152) but you already start with Cannon,Shotgun,Crossgun,Sword,WideSwrd,Steal,Rec10,Minibomb,Escape,X-Panel1
(152-10=142).
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
new bn4 tas
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/290779134
blue moon version and you need to watch the other videos to watch the rest, it uses decent seed for a good tournament scenario
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
EXE 4 Blue Moon TAS, full video with game audio only.
Link to video
Also, brief thoughts on what I feel I could improve:
Tutorial 2 could look cleaner, but is already fast.
Tutorial 3 could potentially be faster if I countered the first Mettaur instead of the second, because it would attack sooner resulting in less down time.
Collected a few chips that I never ended up using or foddering due to bad chip trader windows.
Should try to pick up Airshot * in ACDC 1 for use in the Junkman fight.
Pick up Tornado (and Boomer?) on the first trip to Town Area for use on the stereo fight and prelim gauntlet.
Could have hit Shademan a few frames faster on some of the buster shots.
Can probably pick up at least one of the chip trader chips I need while in Higsby's shop, since in a rewrite I'd have already edited the folder and will have 3-4 spare chips.
Name entry is fun, but in a rewrite I would favor max speed and skip it.
Slow Heel Navi fight. CopyDmg/Boomer? CopyDmg/WideSwrd?
Prelim gauntlet could be much faster with a folder edit having been done.
Ghost Navi fights could be faster with better stacking.
With both LifeSwrd and Tornado I could do at least Normal Navi and Spoutman in one edit.
Counting Sparkman code inputs to make sure I get the fastest code is a good idea.
Stack Sparkman and Town 3 gauntlet in one edit? Maybe even RAEJDUK?
Stacking ToyRobo for fast fights with one edit should be easy with the lotto chips.
Plan and test lots of different routes for 50pts to see what is actually optimal. Skipping the 4pt fight and 1 other point is probably better than skipping rock paper scissors.
Zenny route was very sloppy. Most efficient GMDs are in later areas, though at least 1000z in park is necessary. I should also look much harder for an Atk+10 GMD in Park Area to save menuing during the Duo folder edit.
Junkman can be killed much faster with a * code chip, Areagrab and LifeSwrd.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
i'm extremely surprised but i found a glitch reminiscent of other people's discoveries, if you mash A with autofire in airman in EXE2, you can bypass the clouds that push you backwards, it saves a lot of time not having to work your way around them
i was actually interested in testing if you can slow down the clouds with mashing A like alpha comps in BN3, i also read you can slow down ghosts in BN2 castle dungeon, the one with protoman and knightman
EDIT: tested the vampires and ghosts, they slow down a lot
no changes in magnets or quickman explosions,
i also tested the mayl HP out of bounds exclusive to EXE2, i didn't get any crash but eventually i stopped having encounters for a long period of time, literally minutes,it may be some kind of invisible boundary and one of the stroll got me warped to the net as the mayl HP warp normally does, just go OOBs, line up with the warp from the upright position and go in that direction
TAS i'm interested:
megaman series: mmbn1 all chips, mmx3 any% psx glitched
fighting games with speed goals in general
