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I wouldn't recommend starting on getting the aboveground CDs until you figure out a way to get the belowground ones. They'll need an entirely different type of glitch to access. In fact, likely you'll need some kind of savefile corruption, or some way to get Rush Dig into Forte's inventory (which I'd guess means corrupting weapon data). I don't think anyone's done any research into that kind of thing for this game yet.
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It's been a long time since I played the game, but I recall there being at least one non-Rush Search CD that Bass cannot get at all. Like, it flat out doesn't appear when you're playing as him.
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sameasusual wrote:
On the other hand, given how glitchy this game has been revealed to be, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a way for Forte/Bass to retrieve those buried CDs. Like catching 152 pokemon in under two minutes, that sort of glitchiness.
Then again, it doesn't really seem like a 100% run if you don't actually collect the items yourself. If I want to see a 100% run I want to see all those 100% being collected, not seeing them randomly pop up after the credits.
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If necessary the Rush Search, I'll have to see
mmarks wrote:
It occurred to me, collect the CDs that are above ground and then think how to collect the CDs than are bellow
Mmarks, I greatly recommend to you to stop and think before you TAS. Collecting all non-Rush Search CDs first and then thinking about the Rush Search ones is both unpractical and suboptimal, since if it's even possible to get them you would need to revisit all stages again, or redo the entire TAS - which means there isn't a point to do the non-Rush CDs first in the first place.
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Tengu and Grand were completed. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/802397768/RnF_Forte_Grand.smv Now, total saved frame is 1997. (about 33sec) At 52370 frames, here is a new trick, into lower corner and erase I.Wall. It is available for Rockman too.
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sparky wrote:
Tengu and Grand were completed. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/802397768/RnF_Forte_Grand.smv Now, total saved frame is 1997. (about 33sec) At 52370 frames, here is a new trick, into lower corner and erase I.Wall. It is available for Rockman too.
parrot14gree's movie http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3100043042367374392&hl=en-CA# watch 26 seconds Can cancel a large centipede
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parrot14gree's movie http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3100043042367374392&hl=en-CA# watch 26 seconds Can cancel a large centipede
Thanks, woabclf. But it makes it impossible to complete the level later. When Forte reaches the same level as the ground floor, he walks automatically.
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I will continue with TAS of Rockman 100CDs
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FractalFusion wrote:
woabclf wrote:
parrot14gree's movie http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3100043042367374392&hl=en-CA# watch 26 seconds Can cancel a large centipede
Thanks, woabclf. But it makes it impossible to complete the level later. When Forte reaches the same level as the ground floor, he walks automatically.
After ignored mid-boss, it is possible to avoid automatic walk by using death. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1793924505/RnF_Grand_sample.smv But it is not fast.
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I will continue with TAS of Rockman 100CDs
I'm looking forward to your work. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alongside Forte, I've started making Rockman any% run again. And I found a new trick for Rockman. Slide under the ceiling without pause menu. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/37896664/RnF_slide_under_ceiling.smv
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sparky wrote:
Alongside Forte, I've started making Rockman any% run again. And I found a new trick for Rockman. Slide under the ceiling without pause menu. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/37896664/RnF_slide_under_ceiling.smv
Do you not make TAS of 100CD? After all, you have more experience Others may be very difficult to make
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/833044939/RnF_Rockman_Burner.smv A new Rockman any% completed to Burner level. Now, 252 frames faster and extends 120 bolts. This run contains some improvements which can apply to 100CDs too. Rockman run may be going to be completed earlier than Forte.
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Do you not make TAS of 100CD? After all, you have more experience Others may be very difficult to make
It is a prior to complete any% for the time being. Afterwards, I think.
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sparky wrote:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/833044939/RnF_Rockman_Burner.smv A new Rockman any% completed to Burner level. Now, 252 frames faster and extends 120 bolts. This run contains some improvements which can apply to 100CDs too. Rockman run may be going to be completed earlier than Forte.
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Do you not make TAS of 100CD? After all, you have more experience Others may be very difficult to make
It is a prior to complete any% for the time being. Afterwards, I think.
Great work sparky. ) will start the run 100 CDs
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I think than I improved 2 frame in the first area
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Now, all 8 bosses level done. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/528634487/RnF_Rockman_Magic.smv This far, 19sec saved from my previous run.
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1837302192/Rockman%26Forte-Rockman100CDs.smv 9 frame faster
Mine is 14 frame further faster. It might be a good idea to compare with it.
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sparky wrote:
Now, all 8 bosses level done. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/528634487/RnF_Rockman_Magic.smv This far, 19sec saved from my previous run.
mmarks wrote:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1837302192/Rockman%26Forte-Rockman100CDs.smv 9 frame faster
Mine is 14 frame further faster. It might be a good idea to compare with it.
Good, because I imprived in total 12 frames in the frist level. Now in Total I improved 52 frame faster in Cold. After fighting the snowman.
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Other stuff more, you can not install the remote mine, as you did in Tengu. You just have to make glitch
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mmarks wrote:
Now in Total I improved 52 frame faster in Gold. After fighting the snowman.
I think you meant Cold, mmarks. Just so I understand, you're working on 100CDs-Rockman, and sparky is working on any%Rockman?
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Just so I understand, you're working on 100CDs-Rockman, and sparky is working on any%Rockman?
Yes, I'm making both of Rockman's any% and Forte's any% now. Rockman will be completed soon. Forte is subsequent. (Progress: Rockman 12/13, Forte 8/13)
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sameasusual wrote:
mmarks wrote:
Now in Total I improved 52 frame faster in Gold. After fighting the snowman.
I think you meant Cold, mmarks. Just so I understand, you're working on 100CDs-Rockman, and sparky is working on any%Rockman?
Yeah, sorry
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sparky wrote:
Mine is 14 frame further faster. It might be a good idea to compare with it.
The improved this in your movie or in other movie made by you
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sparky: you can do the same way than rockman, using to forte, I say, if you understand, could do it faster. I'm just saying and you find out if have time If you do not understand, I say, starting with Cold > Astro > Dynamo and so like Rockman
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The bosses are done in weakness order until Counter Attacker is gotten because the Forte Buster only does 1 damage per hit against bosses; from my understanding, that would more than negate the time that would be saved from rushing to Dynamo Man.
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http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/get/266078324/Rockman%20%26%20Forte%20%28J%29%20%5B%21%5D%20-%20Cold%20SnowMan%20-%20sparky%20%26%20mmarks.smv Cold MAN - SnowMan: finished at frame 10196 and in the previous run finished in the frame 10280, improving 84 frames faster than in the publication of parrot14green
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mmarks wrote:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/get/266078324/Rockman%20%26%20Forte%20%28J%29%20%5B%21%5D%20-%20Cold%20SnowMan%20-%20sparky%20%26%20mmarks.smv Cold MAN - SnowMan: finished at frame 10196 and in the previous run finished in the frame 10280, improving 84 frames faster than in the publication of parrot14green
I think cd do not need to take Because the second cold man stage can use ice wall and lightning
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mmarks wrote:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/get/266078324/Rockman%20%26%20Forte%20%28J%29%20%5B%21%5D%20-%20Cold%20SnowMan%20-%20sparky%20%26%20mmarks.smv Cold MAN - SnowMan: finished at frame 10196 and in the previous run finished in the frame 10280, improving 84 frames faster than in the publication of parrot14green
You have 80 bolts. Parrot14green has 225 bolts. Please stop and think.