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Here it is, my finished TAS of Hulk. I'm still searching for glitches, and will post them here: Hulk shows his true colors... funny, but useless. Stop 'n' Go Glitch, it's not very useful against bosses, but can save 5+ frames when used near some enemies.
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No replies? I’ll have to write a FAQ* then. Q: I only have the (E) version of the Rom, can you send me the (U) version? A: No, sharing Roms are not allowed here, but you can use the (E) version too. Q: I used the (E) version as you said, but the game is running slow, why? A: Go to Config => Speed => Set Speed => 100% (normal speed). Q: Your movie is only 10% entertaining. Haven't you read the rule about this? A: It’s a guideline, not a rule, but if that’s the case, watch only 10% of the run. Q: I saw in YouTube someone climbing ladders faster than you, why? A: Only the Genesis version allows you to climb ladders this way. Q: Every time I try to watch your movie I fall asleep, why? A: Drink a cup of coffee before or during the movie. Q: Some times you jump right into the bullets, and it looks sloppy, why is that? A: The only way to avoid this would be killing those enemies, but it wastes time. Q: Why use Snes9x rerecording 1.43 and not 1.51? A: I tried the version 1.51, but the lag was unbearable. Q: You wait too much to skip the cut scenes, why? A: Only on Genesis you can skip cut scenes when they begin. Q: So, which version can be completed faster, Genesis or SNES? A: None of them, the faster to complete is the Master System version. Q: If the Master System version is faster to complete, why you chose the SNES? A: I don’t choose it yet, but without this run I don’t have something to compare. Q: Are you going to run the Genesis and Master System versions? A: No, even though I like this game, it’s not a good game choice. Q: Since it’s a bad game choice, why are you still looking for glitches? A: It’s one of my favorite games and I’m doing it for fun. Q: If I find something, can I post it here? A: Yes, please do it! I’ll be more than glad. *Fake Asked Questions
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I redid some parts of my Hulk run. What's new: the stop 'n' go glitch was used to delay some enemies, one vase and one boss. better health management on level 3, that allowed me to skip one energy pill. I changed the way that Hulk becomes invincible on level 5 (6?). I used a kind of camera delay to avoid the flying droids. (?)
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FAQ* v2.0 Q: I saw that you still hit a pillar you're trying to jump over, why? A: That's the faster way, otherwise you land on top of the pillar. Q: You don't used the stop 'n' go glitch near some enemies, why? A: There are some enemies (droids) that shoot regardless. Q: Okay, but what about some of the stone soldiers? A: To stop their animation the glitch must be done too soon. Q: And what's the problem with that? A: Use the glitch in this case is slower than take damage. Q: I don't want to see a muscle-bound guy almost naked running all the time. A: Then I suggest you to watch Barbie Super Model or Sailor Moon TASes only Q: You answered a question that was not a question, why? A: Good qestion... unfortunately I don't have a good answer.
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hulk its so heavy i liked the run.
Run..Run...Run.....
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Thank you wicked. by the by, Troy Spence's speedrun is already published at SDA, the guy did a great job there with the Genesis version, 0:19:35.
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Three years have passed since my first submitted and accepted run, well, not exactly... But I want to celebrate it somehow, and I think an improvement is a good way to do it. For my new run I'll use BizHawk, the game lags a lot more on this emulator, but weird enough, I can input even during lag frames! Another thing I noticed is that the game does not "stop" during the aforementioned lag frames, it just takes a little longer to load the next stage.. So, I only need to worry about doing things faster than I did before, switching emulators will have a little impact on my final time.
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Even after three years, this game generates little interest... time for a *FAQ v3 then; Q: What about your other old SNES runs, are you going to update them too? A: My favorite game of all time is DKC2; it’s a strong candidate for my next project. Q: I still have the same (E) version as before. Will it work on the new emulator? A: No. You’ll have to dump the (U) version from an original cartridge this time. Q: If on Snes9x 1.51 the lag was unbearable, how is it less noticeable on BizHawk? A: Beats me. But the Stop & Go trick can also be used to soften things up, luckily. Q: Stop & Go? What is it? Is this a new trick? Have you found new tricks already? A: No, it’s the same “hold and release right+R”, but it can be used to avoid lag too. Q: Your run was demoted to the Vault Tier. Do you think you can improve this too? A: I’ll try, but it’s hard to do interesting things on this game; run left, run right and repeat… Q: Yeah, this game sucks when it comes to “be creative” kind of things. Why TAS it then? A: Well, as I said before, it was my first submission to this site and I’m a nostalgic guy. Q: Okay, just one more question; shouldn’t you be working instead of writing this *FAQ? A: Yeah, I should, but I’m kind of stuck on a boss fight. Well, see you on *FAQ v4 then! *FAQ = Forged Asked Questions
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Dooty wrote:
*FAQ = Fake Asked Questions *FAQ = Forged Asked Questions
He'll be here all week, folks! Seriously though, why didn't you use the Genesis emulator? Nice WIPs, btw. ;)
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I tried, but on the Genesis version it is impossible to get the commands to work when you have a lot of lag... One thing that would make a big difference would be a way to commit suicide in the Genesis version; the Hulk is invincible after a suicide in the last frame before the next stage. edit: on the SNES it's X+Y+Start, but you must be shot by a droid on the next stage.
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Alba wrote:
Nice WIPs, btw. ;)
totally forgot, sorry... here's the first wip; http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/5876324850257529 I like to end my wips after boss fights, but I'm still far from the second boss, so it ends with the suicide trick, well, kind of...
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I'm sure you've tried numerous times to create the trick in the GEN version, but I'm sort of interested now. I might mess around with it a little bit and let you know if I've found anything.
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Thank you very much for your interest, Alba! Here’s a new wip, 181 frames behind the published run; http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/5924018319797202 And with a new wip comes a new *FAQ to keep you updated;
Q: Barely notice slowdowns my ass! Tyrannus’ Labyrinth, 2-8 for example, care to explain?
A: There are places with more lag than this section and they’re smooth. I just don’t know why.

Q: You were punching in that section, but why you didn’t use the Stop&Go in other sections?
A: I know I should blame the lag, but sometimes there’s no lag and the game ignores my input.

Q: Okay, the lag blah, blah, blah... And the suicide trick? Are you going to use it or not?
A: No. In the SNES version it wastes more time than collecting pills to keep me "Hulked Out".

Q: You keep talking about using that trick in the Genesis version, but, how if you can’t suicide?
A: In the Genesis version dying and advancing to a next area makes you invincible right away.

Q: I think it’s as fake as your other *FAQs...How on earth do you know that? Just, how?
A: I can’t quite remember, but I think I let the time expire on Rhynos fight, I don’t know.

Q: I think you don’t like the Genesis version and are just trying to find excuses, is that right?
A: Well, now you got me... I chose the SNES version because I like it more, but that’s not all.

Q: You can’t blame the lag anymore, and we prefer the Genesis, why you insist in the SNES?
A: Well, the lag still is a factor, but the boss fights on the Genesis will be a lot slower.

Q: I’m still not convinced, but when are you going to release the next unwanted SNES wip?
A: When it’s ready, but as I said before, I like to post new wips after boss fights.
*FAQ = False Asked Questions edit: I posted the wrong wip, this one still have the "suicide trick", but everything before that is right, sorry about that. edit: about the suicide trick on the Genesis version; I was not recording at the time it happend, but it also work on elevators in the SNES, the ones that advance you to a new area. You might want to try Leader's Interior, it's near the end of the game, so I think that's why I was trying to find a way to suicide in other stages, but can't say for sure. edit: Almost there, just the final stage to do. I'm also ahead of my old run, finally!
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