Post subject: Windows non-XP/2003/Vista Daylight Savings Fix
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Removed as a perfect patch is out there on the internet. There's no more need for this long winded post.
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Are there having the Windows Vista in your computer? It will be recommended for the Windows XP. Can they lock the Windows Vista Thread so nobody can post this Thread?
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What's the new problem of the DST? ... and furthermore, why would you want to lock this thread? It would benefit others.
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Are you using a babelfish translator? Cause your sentences make no sense.
What's the new problem of the DST?
The problem is that a 2005 law change when DST starts and ends. Normally it starts the 1st Sunday in April and ends the last Sunday in October. However, this year it starts the 2nd Sunday in March and ends the 1st Sunday in November, hence the problem with computers, as they're all programmed under the old mechanism. Fortunately for XP, Server 2003, and Vista users, you've got the easy route to victory. However other Windows OS users have to manually fix their problem. I know this works on 2000, but if anybody has any other Windows OSes and can verify this information works on it, I'd appreciate it.
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I can try it on 98 tonight. But I might get slightly weird results, because I'm not in America...
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If you can at least confirm that the information is there at the specified location, that'll be a bonus.
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Daylight savings is stupid. You should just turn it off and use the actual time instead.
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Yeah, only if you want to be off an hour for like, most of the year. Plus I'm also needing to know this for if computer customers come calling and asking me.
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Well they don't use Daylight Savings in Iceland, so I really wouldn't know about the intricasies of such a strange sytem. However, I imagine I would just act like the time is what is is, and that everyone else is off by one hour instead of me. I'm stubborn like that. Of course, if my job depended on it, it might be different. Of course, I'm a nut. If I were the king of the world, I would turn the 24-hour system into 20-hour or even 10-hour system, and make it global, so that 10 o'clock would be 10 o'clock everywhere. I mean, we do that for the months of the years, why not the hours? People would adapt very quickly. More quickly than many people think.
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Blublu wrote:
Of course, I'm a nut. If I were the king of the world, I would turn the 24-hour system into 20-hour or even 10-hour system, and make it global, so that 10 o'clock would be 10 o'clock everywhere. I mean, we do that for the months of the years, why not the hours?
Because it could be the middle of the day at 10 o'clock in part of the world and pitch black at 10 o'clock in the other part of the world. That's why we have time zones. : )
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Deep Loner wrote:
Blublu wrote:
Of course, I'm a nut. If I were the king of the world, I would turn the 24-hour system into 20-hour or even 10-hour system, and make it global, so that 10 o'clock would be 10 o'clock everywhere. I mean, we do that for the months of the years, why not the hours?
Because it could be the middle of the day at 10 o'clock in part of the world and pitch black at 10 o'clock in the other part of the world. That's why we have time zones. : )
I disagree. I think that people would simply learn what hours mean what for their area, and then when they go to another area, they would simply adapt. Really, it wouldn't be that much trouble. It would make coordinations across the globe much easier and it would NOT make coordinations across the same region any more difficult. At least I don't see how. What's the downside? The biggest problem people have with this idea is that they are used to something else. Well, maybe this "something else" is not the best way of doing things.
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I agree with Blublu in that we don't need time zones. But that still wouldn't be a cure to jetlags. Oh, how I hate jetlags! :( .... Ha! I found a problem within Blublu's system. New Year's Eve! The date would change at 00:00, globally at the same time. But you won't see the fireworks when the sun is shining, haha. I win.
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Kuwaga wrote:
I agree with Blublu in that we don't need time zones. But that still wouldn't be a cure to jetlags. Oh, how I hate jetlags! :( .... Ha! I found a problem within Blublu's system. New Year's Eve! The date would change at 00:00, globally at the same time. But you won't see the fireworks when the sun is shining, haha. I win.
That can easily be fixed if everyone just celebrates for the whole 24-hour period. Blow stuff up whenever it gets dark, or something. Then get drunk and who cares what time it is!
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People don't appreciate it when you call them at 3:00 in the morning.
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laughing_gas wrote:
People don't appreciate it when you call them at 3:00 in the morning.
That was basically my point. If someone knows that "it's 3:00 am over there", then we know not to bother them. The whole point of keeping time is to know when certain events occur. One might, for example, wake up at 7:00 am, start work at 9:00 am, eat lunch at 12:00 pm, leave work at 5:00 pm, eat dinner at 6:00 pm, and go to bed at 10:00 pm. With time zones, these times are consistant no matter where in the world one is. Someone's probably out for lunch if it's 12:20 pm over there or asleep if it's 1:30 am, no matter where "over there" is. But with Blublu's system, we would be asking stupid questions like "Does the sun come up at 3:00 pm over there?" "Is so-and-so likely to be eating lunch at 1:30 am over there?" The purpose of time zones is to make keeping time purposeful. Also, simply doing away with the theoretical concept of time zones would do absolutely nothing to change the real-life phenomenon of jet lag, because the theoretical concept does not cause the real-life phenomenon; rather, the real-life phenomenon is explained and understood by theoretical constructions such as hours and time zones. These theoretical concepts are what help us to understand and adapt to our environment. However, if someone insists on living in a world that's poorly understood and confusing... </off-topic> The thread has gotton way off-topic, even for an off-topic thread. : ) I should say that this is (or at least started out as) one of the more useful threads in the off-topic forum that I have seen.
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I see your point, but the understanding of when stuff takes place on other parts of the globe is largely imaginary anyway. You might know at what time the sun comes up in Japan in japanese time, but you probably have no idea right now what that time actually is. So you might have to ask when the sun comes up "there". With our current system, you still have no idea when the sun comes up "there", even if you know the local time. You would have to ask instead "what time-zone is over there and should I add or subtract how many hours to my current time?". But yeah, I understand what you mean and I'm sure the new system would take some getting used to. It's hopeless, though - too many people (probably almost everyone) would simply reject it and keep using the old system anyway.
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Isn't it easier to just take the time and add the time zone to your local time instead of just take your phone, call there, and ask, heyy what time is it ?
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Blublu wrote:
[...]too many people (probably almost everyone) would simply reject it and keep using the old system anyway.
Like me. ; )