Posted: 3/22/2007 12:17 PM
Post subject: If you were to divide TAS history into ages...
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zefiris
Joined: 4/11/2006
Posts: 487
Location: North of Russia :[
What ages would there be? I am not so familiar with history, so, I can't do it better then this: Prehistoric Era (Doom Era)- Doom TASes Famtasia Era - NES runs with slowdowns, starts from famous SMB3 run Frame Advance Era - FCEU, Snes9x, GENS, VBA, M64 rerecording emulators show up And Upcoming Era - DS, PSX, DOS, MAME... I would like to know at least order in which available emulators first offered rerecording `^^
Posted: 3/22/2007 12:45 PM
Post subject: my take
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moozooh
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Joined: 8/4/2005
Posts: 5770
Location: Away
By funtionality used in TAS production: I. Engine-based (Doom). II. Primitive rerecording: savestates + slowdown (Famtasia, old DOS versions of ZSNES, etc). III. Expansion: bulletproof rerecording + frame advance (FCEU, Snes9x, Gens, VBA, maybe Mupen). IV. Technological advance: memory watch, ROM disassembly, using bots and macros, easy movie splicing (Mupen lags behind, yet again). V. ??? VI. Profit! By coverage: I. Engine-based (Doom). II. Cartridge-based console emulation with rerecording. III. Bulletproof optical media-based console emulation with rerecording (first PSX and Sega CD, later other platforms) and arcade machines emulation (Neo Geo, etc.). IV. Bulletproof computer systems emulation with rerecording (Atari ST+TOS, PC+DOS, Amiga+AmigaOS, etc.). V. Creating universal enviroments that would allow to TAS virtually any applications?
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Posted: 3/24/2007 10:07 AM
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Warp
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Joined: 3/10/2004
Posts: 7698
Location: Finland
By public acceptance: I. The Doom era: Doom TASes are an accepted "curiosity" among Doom (and possibly other) speedrunners as a comparison between a "perfect" speedrun and a legit one. II. The post-morimoto-smb3 era: A large sector of the public gets the notion that TASes are "fakes", "cheating" and "hoaxes". The major part of the speedrunning community thinks so too and disses/attacks the genre. The existence of Doom TASes is forgotten/ignored for some reason. III. Public acceptance era: Most people, including most speedrunners, start accepting TASes as its own legit and separate form of speedrunning. Many regular speedrunners actually have a positive attitude towards TASes. Although some people still consider them "fake", they start being a minority. Wikipedia actually creates a separate page for TASes instead of keeping it as a little more than a footnote in the speedrun page. IV. The future: ?
Posted: 3/25/2007 11:45 PM
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pirate_sephiroth
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Joined: 2/28/2006
Posts: 2275
Location: Milky Way -> Earth -> Brazil
New systems TAS of 2009
APRÈS MOI, LE DELUGE... HAH!
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Posted: 3/26/2007 12:41 AM
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Rick
Former player
Joined: 6/25/2004
Posts: 607
Location: Maine
1. First-Person Shooter speed runs. (Honestly, I hope that with Bisqwit's new run that more people will do PC stuff.) 2. The Famtasia Era (The one I joined in! I feel like such a lazy vet. XD) 3. The frame-by-frame era. 4. The future!
http://wiki.rustedlogic.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor The Cutting Room Floor wiki.