What would be the traits of an ideal TASer?
1. Must not ever get bored of repetition, infact should somewhat enjoy it.
2. Would probably have additional TASing tools which others wouldn't have and perhaps rewrite the emu they're using in relation to what game they're doing.
3. Rerecord rate would be through the roof for each submission.
4. Job would involve programming.
5. Would probably be self employed and working on the same computer.
6. Know the mechanics of each game so well that they could recreate the game from scratch.
7. Be able to tailor a bot to each game.
8. Would be driven strongly by curiousty when watching or improving someone elses run.
9. Would be appreative and surprised when someone improves their work and would gain ideas on further improvements based on the new stuff they've seen.
10. Screen would look more like a cockpit in fighter jet.
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10 could easily be taken literally with games like F-117 Night Storm or something.
But you forgot one very important point.
11. Patience is needed or else you will become insane.
I disagree with the fact that a programmer is the best guy to make TASes but well, in most cases, it's indeed true.
Here are my personal thoughts of a "Perfect" TASer.
1. He can TAS any games. Any genre.
2. He is persevering.
3. He does have lot of free time.
4. He can understand the logic of a game. (Illogic included).
5. He is not afraid of restarting a project after some tricks discovered and does not get easily discouraged by restarting it.
6. "Here is a main problem of many TASers and a mix of point 2 and 5. " He is not in a hurry of finishing a movie to submit it as soon as possible. Hurrying=Making errors.
Well, I know I'm missing an other one but I think the most important ones are there.
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Can create a program that can make a TAS that follows its goal in the best way possible without a single rerecord
Remembe, this is perfect we're talking about here
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P.JBoy wrote:
Can create a program that can make a TAS that follows its goal in the best way possible without a single rerecord
Remembe, this is perfect we're talking about here
That's not a TASer, that's a programmer.
My published movies
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Sage advice from a friend of Jim: So put your tinfoil hat back in the closet, open your eyes to the truth, and realize that the government is in fact causing austismal cancer with it's 9/11 fluoride vaccinations of your water supply.
lol. I agree that the most effective TASer isn't necessarily a programmer, but uses whatever methods are expedient. Nevertheless...
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mmbossman wrote:
Zurreco wrote:
12. Doesn't use illogical ratings systems that are both convoluted and self-reprimanding.
That's the site, not a person.
I'm fine with how the site's rating system works (although I find it aggravating that the averages for either statistic are probably not 5, which is where they are expected to be). You're just missing the reference to a rating system that someone attempted to apply at one point in response to the site rating system.
Seriously, though, way to jump the gun.
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Zurreco wrote:
mmbossman wrote:
Zurreco wrote:
12. Doesn't use illogical ratings systems that are both convoluted and self-reprimanding.
That's the site, not a person.
You're just missing the reference to a rating system that someone attempted to apply at one point in response to the site rating system.
Seriously, though, way to jump the gun.
Yes, that perfectly clears things up. In other words, I still have no idea what you're talking about.
It would also mean that we publish as many movies worthy of 1s and 2s as we do movies worthy of 8s and 9s. Hence the "standards" of publication that we have.
A more realistic average would probably be around 7 for both categories, since a movie that ends up with scores of 5s for both tech and entertainment is usually right on the border of being rejected in the first place, and most movies (even the great ones), top out at 9-9.3.
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Zurrecco wrote:
I'm fine with how the site's rating system works (although I find it aggravating that the averages for either statistic are probably not 5, which is where they are expected to be).
A 5 average assume people view the rating system the way you do. There are at least 2 other viewpoints that don't necessitate this:
1) Rating based on the entire body of TAS movies (or TAS movies the person has encountered), including TASvideos publications, rejections, other sites, etc.
In this case, hopefully their average rating would be higher than 5 as TASvideos aspires to higher than average standards.
2) A more absolute rating system where 10 is what you imagine the ideal TAS would be like
I'm guessing most gravitate to something more like 20.
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adelikat wrote:
1) Rating based on the entire body of TAS movies (or TAS movies the person has encountered), including TASvideos publications, rejections, other sites, etc.
There is no good argument as to why rejected submissions would factor in to the site's average ratings. Otherwise, those who flood the submission queue with uselessly unoptimized/boring runs would artificially drive up the ratings for published movies. Ratings should only be based on the actively published body of videos on the site. Otherwise, what is the point in rating? It's meant to show personal comparative values for available movies, not "well, everything on this site is fucking sweet compared to some of the shit I have seen elsewhere!"
adelikat wrote:
2) A more absolute rating system where 10 is what you imagine the ideal TAS would be like
Why wouldn't 10 be the ideal? Would you propose that 11 be the ideal instead?
Either way, I was initially referencing the second quote on this subsection of moozooh's page. It saddens me that so few of you know enough about the tasvideos forum lore and history.
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Just because you like to explain things in vague terms doesn't mean that I, nor anyone else who has responded to you, has poor knowledge of the forum's history. I even had part of that quote in my effing signature for a couple months.
Next time, assume that people won't automatically know what you're thinking about when you say that "Someone once did something at some point in time"
The problem is that 0 is "Completely unacceptable" (in both categories).
Rules here are so strict that nothing below average is usually published any more, so ratings below 5 are very rare (if not completely absent) for most movies.
Factor in that most people enjoy movies here and the average ratings jimsfriend pointed out really aren't unexpected. Techncally you would do better to multiply the rating by 10 and mark it as a grade (e.g., 75% being C/average).
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mmbossman wrote:
Next time, assume that people won't automatically know what you're thinking about when you say that "Someone once did something at some point in time"
Next time I make a reference, be it vague or not, I will expect that people won't comment on it unless they are confident that they have caught the reference properly. Otherwise, why would someone run the risk of looking like a fool by making a false assumption in the first place?
Honestly, do you respond to every cryptic statement with some sort of universal brush-off?
