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I like the new system, however, can we fix the space between items? Because even on 1024x768 resolution, it wraps around and looks kinda ugly.
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Post subject: Technical rating currently broken
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Currently, I can't give out 'technical' ratings for published movies - I can give ratings for entertainment, but whatever I select in the other drop-down box, it doesn't seem to register (and records as 'missing' when I look at stuff I've rated). I thought this was worth making a thread for. Hope that's cool.
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Post subject: Re: Technical rating currently broken
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Bezman wrote:
Currently, I can't give out 'technical' ratings for published movies - I can give ratings for entertainment, but whatever I select in the other drop-down box, it doesn't seem to register (and records as 'missing' when I look at stuff I've rated). I thought this was worth making a thread for. Hope that's cool.
Hmm. Not worth making a thread over, merging it when I have time. But I'll see and fix the bug.
Post subject: Re: Technical rating currently broken
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Bisqwit wrote:
Hmm. Not worth making a thread over, merging it when I have time. But I'll see and fix the bug.
Fixed on both accounts.
Post subject: Re: Technical rating currently broken
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Bisqwit wrote:
Bisqwit wrote:
Hmm. Not worth making a thread over, merging it when I have time. But I'll see and fix the bug.
Fixed on both accounts.
Thanks!
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New bug: I can see 2 dropdown boxes for each category. I'm holding my ratings until this is fixed.
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That isn't a bug. One is for the integer, one is for the decimal, so now you can have more specific ratings (i.e. 9.1 or 5.7)
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I find it somewhat ironic that the very first feedback of the new voting UI is that it must be buggy because now there are two dropdown menus... :P Does anyone have any suggestion about how to make it clearer that the first dropdown menu is the integer part and the second one the decimal part of the rating? Maybe it would be enough to add some explanatory text to the rating page... EDIT: Ok, I added some explanatory instructions to the rating page, which should help clearing up possible confusions.
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Warp wrote:
I find it somewhat ironic that the very first feedback of the new voting UI is that it must be buggy because now there are two dropdown menus... :P Does anyone have any suggestion about how to make it clearer that the first dropdown menu is the integer part and the second one the decimal part of the rating?
Could it perchance use the same rating engine as on the forums? It's forumsubmissionvoting.php. If you'd like to create a common module that would implement both the forum and site submission votings at once, it'd be nice...
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Bisqwit wrote:
Could it perchance use the same rating engine as on the forums?
I suppose it could. (OTOH I like the fact that the dropdown menus don't require javascript to be enabled.)
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Warp wrote:
I suppose it could. (OTOH I like the fact that the dropdown menus don't require javascript to be enabled.)
The on-forums rating thing has also a fallback for a no-script case. Though it doesn't support decimals then.
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I can think of three possible options: 1) Keep it as it is now. Basic engineer principle: If it works, don't fix it. (Unless people start complaining that the dropdown menu system really sucks and must be changed. ;) ) 2) If Javascripts are detected, use the forum voting widget, else the dropdown menus. 3) Allow each user to choose in their user settings whether they want the dropdown menus or the forum voting widget.
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Warp wrote:
I find it somewhat ironic that the very first feedback of the new voting UI is that it must be buggy because now there are two dropdown menus... :P Does anyone have any suggestion about how to make it clearer that the first dropdown menu is the integer part and the second one the decimal part of the rating? Maybe it would be enough to add some explanatory text to the rating page... EDIT: Ok, I added some explanatory instructions to the rating page, which should help clearing up possible confusions.
Oh, so the additional dropdown boxes are decimals? That was far than obvious. Pretty funny mistake though! If we're going to have decimals, I suggest using textboxes instead of dropdown boxes, and make it clear in the rating system description at the bottom of the page what is allowed as input. The forum voting widget is pretty cool too, I agree that it would be a nice addition for those having Javascript enabled.
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SmashManiac wrote:
If we're going to have decimals, I suggest using textboxes instead of dropdown boxes, and make it clear in the rating system description at the bottom of the page what is allowed as input.
IMO the dropdown menus are way easier to use, once you know what they are for. Just a few mouse clicks.
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eternaljwh wrote:
Entertainment ratings # = 22, technical ratings # = 21, average # = 21.6?? Something's not right here...
It is probably right though. Entertainment ratings count for about 2/3, and technical ratings for about 1/3... so the person who only rated entertainment contributed about 2/3 which is roughly 0.6 (I know, rounded it would be 0.7, but there are other factors too). It's close enough to what one would expect for it to seem ok.
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Baxter wrote:
It is probably right though. Entertainment ratings count for about 2/3, and technical ratings for about 1/3
Wait, so there actually is a site guideline/calculation for entertainment > technical (aka speed)? That's hysterical!!!! I guess that "obsoletes" the speed vs. entertainment debate/topic. A TAS pun! hee hee!
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I don't think that the category factors are a statement on what is more important (speed or entertainment), but a result of people complaining that they don't have the means to properly judge the technical quality in the same way as the entertainment value. Thus it sounds logical that the entertainment vote is given a larger weight than the technical vote.
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