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duksandfish wrote:
a = b
a^2 = ab
a^2 - ab = a^2 - ab
1(a^2 - ab) = 3(a^2 - ab)
1 = 3
This proof is wrong anyway.
this line is definitely correct: A^2-AB=A^2-AB, because it's the same written term on both sides, then you divide on 1 on one side and divide by three on the other. Yes, 1*0 = 3*0 but to con the reder into thinking this proof is correct, you have to make the 0 term more discrete. The "proof" goes like this
A = B
AB = B^2
AB - A^2 = B^2 - A^2
A(B - A) = (B + A)(B - A)
A = A + B
A = 2A
1 = 2
however, that only "proves" 1 = 2
Your proof, however is a more complicated version of:
0 = 0
1 * 0 = 3 * 0
1 = 3
EDIT: just realised: my proof also simplifies to that
And for a question for bisquit:
What is the best TAS on the site
Er... I think "1 = 3" means this:
Wikipedia wrote:
God exists as three persons, but is one being. The persons are understood to exist as God the Father, God the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
Probably Bisqwit is a Trinitarian (someone who adheres to this doctrine). Some Churches are not even allowed to sell you God's mercy if you don't believe in the Holy Trinity, so maybe he's just playing it safe with that signature.
You're just fucking stupid, everyone hates you, sorry to tell you the truth. no one likes you, you're someone pretentious and TASes only to be on speed game, but don't have any hope, you won't get there.
Er... I think "1 = 3" means this:
Wikipedia wrote:
God exists as three persons, but is one being. The persons are understood to exist as God the Father, God the Son (incarnate as Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.
Probably Bisqwit is a Trinitarian (someone who adheres to this doctrine). Some Churches are not even allowed to sell you God's mercy if you don't believe in the Holy Trinity, so maybe he's just playing it safe with that signature.
Oh, this makes more sense (in the context of it being Bisqwit's sig). Thanks for clarifying.
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Nietzche wrote:
Is there anyone who would like to take a little look down on and under that secret how man fabricates an ideal on earth? Who has the courage for that? . . . Come on, now! Here’s an open glimpse into this dark workshop. Just wait a moment, my dear Mr. Nosy and Presumptuous: your eye must first get used to this artificial flickering light. . . . So, enough! Now speak! What’s going on down there? Speak up. Say what you see, man of the most dangerous curiosity—now I’m the one who’s listening.—
—”I see nothing, but I hear all the more. It is a careful, crafty, light rumour-mongering and whispering from every nook and cranny. It seems to me that people are lying; a sugary mildness clings to every sound. Weakness is going to be falsified into something of merit. There’s no doubt about it—things are just as you said they were.”
—Keep talking!
—”And powerlessness which does not retaliate is being falsified into ‘goodness,’ anxious baseness into ‘humility,’ submission before those one hates to ‘obedience’ (of course, obedience to the one who, they say, commands this submission—they call him God). The inoffensiveness of the weak man—cowardice itself, in which he is rich, his standing at the door, his inevitable need to wait around—here acquires a good name, like ‘patience,’ and is called virtue itself. That incapacity for revenge is called the lack of desire for revenge, perhaps even forgiveness (‘for they know not what they do—only we know what they do!’). And people are talking about ‘love for one’s enemies’—and sweating as they say it.”
—Keep talking!
—”They are miserable—there’s no doubt about that—all these rumour-mongers and counterfeiters in the corners, although crouched down beside each other in the warmth—but they are telling me that their misery is God’s choice, His sign. One beats the dog one loves the most. Perhaps this misery may be a preparation, a test, an education, perhaps it is even more—something that will one day be rewarded and paid out with huge interest in gold, no, in happiness. They call that ‘blessedness’.”
—Go on!
—”Now they are letting me know that they are not only better than the powerful, the masters of the earth, whose spit they have to lick (not out of fear, certainly not out of fear, but because God commands that they honour all those in authority)—they are not only better than these, but they also are ‘better off,’ or at any rate will one day have it better. But enough! Enough! I can’t take it any more. Bad air! Bad air! This workshop where man fabricates ideals—it seems to me it stinks of nothing but lies.”
—No! Just one minute more! So far you haven’t said anything about the masterpiece of these black magicians who make whiteness, milk, and innocence out of every blackness:—have you not noticed the perfection of their sophistication, their most daring, most refined, most spiritual, most fallacious artistic attempt? Pay attention! These cellar animals full of vengeance and hatred—what exactly are they making out of that vengeance and hatred? Have you ever heard these words? If you heard only their words, would you suspect that you were completely among men of ressentiment? . . .
—”I understand. Once again I’ll open my ears (oh! oh! oh! and hold my nose). Now I’m hearing for the first time what they’ve been saying so often: ‘We good men—we are the righteous’—what they demand they don’t call repayment but ‘the triumph of righteousness.’ What they hate is not their enemy. No! They hate ‘injustice,’ ‘godlessness.’ What they believe and hope is not a hope for revenge, the intoxication of sweet vengeance (something Homer has already called ‘sweeter than honey’), but the victory of God, the righteous God, over the godless. What remains for them to love on earth is not their brothers in hatred but their ‘brothers in love,’ as they say, all the good and righteous people on the earth.”
—And what do they call what serves them as a consolation for all the suffering of life—their phantasmagoria of future blessedness which they are expecting?
—”What’s that? Am I hearing correctly? They call that ‘the last judgment,’ the coming of their kingdom, the coming of ‘God’s kingdom’— but in the meanwhile they live ‘in faith,’ ‘in love,’ ‘in hope.’”
—Enough! Enough!
I ask you, Bisqwit: Have you ever read Nietzche?
hmmmmm????
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
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But he didn't take his books with him.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
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"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
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You killed Him. Nietzche and you.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
tl;dr.
I mean literally: My eyes jumped through your post from a random line to another random line, trying to spot something interesting to read, but failing to locate anything of that kind.
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As for trinity: I do not subscribe to any -ism or -ian label, or the teachings of any particular church unless they happen to agree with what I've come to understand. That includes the label of trinitarianism.
I'll describe here what I believe re: the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Feel free to tl;dr this post in return.
There is a God, who is known by the name YHWH (the vowels are not known anymore), and who is described extensively in the Tanakh -- the Hebrew Bible.
God has a son that is unlike any creation of his. This son is the Messiah of Israel, and he was born into flesh in Betlehem about 2000 years ago. He was rejected by his people, and subsequently crucified -- however, his life was a literal fulfilment of the law. His blood sacrifice fulfilled permanently the role of the animal sacrifices demanded by God's law for atonement of mankind's sins. He rose from the death and ascended to Heaven, but before doing so, he told that he will be the one deciding who gets to Heaven and who does not. This Messiah is known by the name Yeshua. Greek, Latin and English transliterations transformed that name into Jesus.
Yeshua has a Father, whom he calls the God, and who matches the description of YHWH from the old testament. They communicated. From this, follows that Son and Father are two distinct persons.
Before going away, Yeshua told his disciples to wait until they receive the power. This power was the baptism with God's spirit -- so called Holy Spirit -- and they did receive it at the Pentecost day. This is the same power that was upon the great prophets of the Tanakh, and through that power, they performed miracles and received word from God. The Holy Spirit can be described as a spiritual substance -- it is the "living water" that Yeshua described. People who report having visited the Heaven have described that there are literally fountains and rivers with this "water" there, with the rivers flowing from the throne. At times, some believers report feeling "a lot of" Holy Spirit present, or a little. The book of Acts also describes Holy Spirit as a measure by which people can be filled at varying degrees. However, there are also people -- mostly prophets -- who report that the Holy Spirit has a "voice" distinct from the voice of the Son or the Father, a much subtler and gentler one. I have yet to recognize this voice myself, so the best I can say about my knowledge about God's persona is 2½.
In this text, I have thus established that these three subjects are distinct. However, what makes them one is rather implicit: They never conflict each others. They work in perfect harmony. They share the same morality traits.
I don't think there's much question whether Father and the Spirit are one. The Spirit is the work-effecting power of God. However, whether the Son joins this union is more complicated. He said himself: "Father and I are one." and, "Who has seen me, has seen my Father". The Holy Spirit that lives in believers, testifies to them about the Son. I am not aware of any other proofs.
The text above has little to no value to non-believing non-Israelites, but I wrote it here for 1) future reference and 2) to clarify what is my take on the topic.
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nope, you haven't read him. ok.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
I am completely unable to focus on any one task for more than a few minutes. I can usually "focus-burst" into a new project and get some grounding ideas in, but after that it's impossible to do any further work on it, leaving projects to stagnate for months and years.
Do you have any suggestions on improving focus and getting things done? :|
(that and I figured a change from religion questions would be nice)
I am completely unable to focus on any one task for more than a few minutes. I can usually "focus-burst"
into a new project and get some grounding ideas in, but after that it's impossible to do any further work on it, leaving projects
to stagnate for months and years.
Do you have any suggestions on improving focus and getting things done? :|
Sounds like a discipline problem to me.
Are you asking me for hints on self-discipline?
Wikipedia tells us so:
> Thus, self-discipline is the assertion of willpower over more base desires, and is
> usually understood to be a synonym of 'self control'. Self-discipline is to some extent
> a substitute for motivation, when one uses reason to determine a best course of
> action that opposes one's desires.
Here's a quote from the beginning of the Self-control article linked to in the above paragraph:
> People demonstrate great differences in the level of self-control. It can be affected
> because of illness and past experiences and it can be improved through the course
> of life. Many religions have teachings about self control. In the Christian context,
> Paul describes self control in the epistle to the Galatians (5:22-23), as one of the
> fruits of the Spirit. In the epistle addressed to Titus (2:5-6) he instructs to 'Urge
> the younger men to be self controlled.' The Apostle Peter describes an increase
> in self control as fundamental to the salvation of a Christian (2 Peter 1:5-8).
>
> "A man without self-control is as defenseless as a city with broken-down walls" (Proverbs 25:28).
Maybe there's a hint or two. :)
Xkeeper wrote:
(that and I figured a change from religion questions would be nice)"
Bisqwit: acknolwedgement that post was read (but no comment to say.)
moozooh wrote:
Inability doesn't equal unwillingness, though. Sometimes it's a medical problem.
Often I will sit down, begin working on something, then find myself doing other things.
Sometimes I can manage to focus for an extended length of time (like I did last night for 6 hours, and managed some incredible progress). But most of the time I will constantly be shifting between twenty different things.
Anybody who has ever seen something like my current windows or tabs open can usually figure that out with ease... though trying to close things doesn't help (they tend to re-accumulate to that point though use).
(I've actually strongly suspected I have some form of ADD, as even during this post I was looking away to read something else several times... I just haven't acted upon my suspicions and getting an official mental health check is expensive well beyond my capabilities)
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Xkeeper wrote:
I am completely unable to focus on any one task for more than a few minutes. I can usually "focus-burst" into a new project and get some grounding ideas in, but after that it's impossible to do any further work on it, leaving projects to stagnate for months and years.
Do you have any suggestions on improving focus and getting things done? :|
(that and I figured a change from religion questions would be nice)
Maybe if you try to compare all these different things and use the found connections for something dumb you'll regain interest.
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
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Xkeeper wrote:
Often I will sit down, begin working on something, then find myself doing other things.
Sometimes I can manage to focus for an extended length of time (like I did last night for 6 hours, and managed some incredible progress). But most of the time I will constantly be shifting between twenty different things.
Anybody who has ever seen something like my current windows or tabs open can usually figure that out with ease... though trying to close things doesn't help (they tend to re-accumulate to that point though use).
(I've actually strongly suspected I have some form of ADD, as even during this post I was looking away to read something else several times... I just haven't acted upon my suspicions and getting an official mental health check is expensive well beyond my capabilities)
This is quite normal. Many people have this problem. However, it's likely that your problem is most apparent when you've only just begun working on something. Once you become more engaged with the task at hand, the contrary occurs: it becomes easy to forget everything else.
I wouldn't worry too much. The most important thing is to force yourself to begin working. If you can force your attention to your task for the first 5 minutes, that's plenty, since you can probably relax after that.
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Xkeeper wrote:
Often I will sit down, begin working on something, then find myself doing other things.
Sometimes I can manage to focus for an extended length of time (like I did last night for 6 hours, and managed some incredible progress). But most of the time I will constantly be shifting between twenty different things.
Anybody who has ever seen something like my current windows or tabs open can usually figure that out with ease... though trying to close things doesn't help (they tend to re-accumulate to that point though use).
(I've actually strongly suspected I have some form of ADD, as even during this post I was looking away to read something else several times... I just haven't acted upon my suspicions and getting an official mental health check is expensive well beyond my capabilities)
Identify your problem and make it work for you.
You like to drift off and do other things when you are working on something. What if that “other thing” is the project you are trying to finish?
In other words, if you want to program on your project, draw a picture. Then drift off into programming on your project.
There are several other ways to combat it as well.
First, pick projects that fullfill your desire to jump to other things and change what you are doing. For example, I also hate working on the same thing for a long time, so when I draw a picture I jump to different parts of it randomly. It changes the tempo and satisfies my desire to work on something different, yet I still get to make progress on the drawing.
The same thing applies on programming projects. Jump around between the menu system, graphics library, 3D things, over to fonts, some terrain here-and-there, a bit of physics, etc.
Or you could work on multiple projects at once, so that each time you drift off to something else you are still getting your projects done.
Manipulate your ADD to work for you.
Additionally, it helps a lot to work on projects that get you excited when you think about the final result. Thinking about how fun the final product will be is a good way to overcome the hell of actually producing it.
Either way, your choice in your project is a factor. Think about it and pick something with exciting end results and with enough variety that you can do different things while still doing the same thing.
You can also try changing your environment. Work normally for a while, then put on some music and work with that for a while, then take a break. Changing your environment this way does not put your ADD on a shelf, but it helps placate it just enough that you can last a bit longer before you have to drift off to something else, which adds up to more productivity.
L. Spiro
You're a procrastinator, which is highly common among geeks. You lack self-confidence just like all young (pre)adults. Get yourself a job, more friends and a gf. Build yourself the social life you want, and make a parenthesis from computers : they should be a hobby, not your main activity. You'll soon find yourself busy enough.
A simple start is to start playing vg only with real, local friends, then going out with them, etc. You seem to have a strong personality, you'll find ideas without any problem. Good luck.
I never sleep, 'cause sleep is the cousin of death - NAS
I've been hanging around with a lot of real Christians lately, and my understanding of why somebody choses to believe in the Bible has gotten a lot better.
It is only approximately as absurd as believing in the Evolution Theory, but offers many benifits to the believer, as well as some dangers.
I still believe in neither evolution, nor the Bible, but I believe that both contain truths or rather principles that when applied can help me to live a happy life.
I still refuse to believe in anything which can't be proved to be very very probable to be true, which really isn't a lot of things.
In fact, I don't even believe in reality.
You can be a Christian on paper, but in reality not believe in anything or you could have never made up your mind about it. But those people I'm talking about take it quite seriously and have regular meetings and stuff (additional to going to church). So what I mean with 'real' Christians, is people who take their belief seriously and live their lives to work on their relationship to the God of the New Testament and Jesus and worship them, pray for their friends and are looking forward to their afterlives in heaven and stuff. I'm sorry for having been unclear.
Indeed. Not to sound elitist, but in a western, nominally christian country like USA or Finland only has a small fraction of the people are actually true christians. Sadly, that even excludes many (but not all) priests working for the state church. Even sadder, that even includes some people who go to independent churches with healthy credo and agree with everything that is taught there.
Theology and faith are two quite different things, and not all faith saves.
For example, in Finland, if you ask a layman whether they're christian -- there's a high chance that they'll say yes (especially if you setup the question by first talking about muslims etc). If you followup and ask a few fundamental questions, such as whether they will go to Heaven, and whether there are people who will end up in Hell, and whether they think that Jesus actually existed, then you will receive lots of hesitating maybes or plain epileptic trees.
The Bible teaches us that the gate leading to life is strait and the way is narrow, and that there are few who find it. (Matt. 7:14)
It is deceivingly simple: 1. Your sins are forgiven unto you; 2. Go and sin no more; 3. Yeshua* said: Follow me.
All three of these tenets are required; 1 without 3 does not happen. 2 without 3 does not happen. 2 without 1 does not happen. And so on.
Little details like whether you go to church (of whichever denomination), whether you subscribe to postmillenianist and/or trinitarian views, and whether you think TV is an altar of devil, are irrelevant, although there are many things that are important for the believer's spiritual growth.
*) Hebrew original name of Jesus
