I suppose I would like those too, if I liked that genre of music. Thanks for the recommendation.
pirate_sephiroth wrote:
EDIT: Bisqwit, do you honestly believe THESE PEOPLE are working for a better world?
Eh. That video seems somehow edited. Some parts have been sped up, there are new voiceovers somewhere, and in general the direction by clipping makes no sense.
I guess this is from one of the so called "laughing revival" sessions that were a hot topic in early 90s. Now I won't discuss the spirituality of those sessions here, especially given that what you linked to is a video edited in order to specifically mock them, but is there not truth in saying that relaxing and laughing can be therapeutic and relieving, helping one to perform better at one's more solemn duties in the times following that?
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It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
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functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
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Bisqwit wrote:
i hope you don't think all religious people are as crazy as the ones in your videos. most religious people are nice ordinary boring people.
Religion is destroying humankind. It's gonna be a planet of apes in no time.
lol, no it's evolution that claims that we are apes, so teaching evolution in schools is what's going to make this a planet of apes. i even made a video about this earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iwne2xlh6wBisqwit wrote:
I guess this is from one of the so called "laughing revival" sessions that were a hot topic in early 90s.
i guess you mean "holy laughter" (intoxication of the holy spirit):
"Holy Laughter is a phenomenon that occurs at certain Charismatic gatherings. Some participants (from a handful, to almost the whole audience at times) find themselves laughing uncontrollably for no particular reason, sometimes even to the point of falling out of their chairs and rolling on the floor in convulsions of laughter. This can occur no matter the topic being addressed by the current speaker from the pulpit-even when the speaker is expounding on such matters as Eternal Judgment and Hell. It is taught in such settings that this is a supernatural manifestation which indicates a special in-filling of the individual by the Holy Spirit. Although this phenomenon has been reported in isolated instances for the past 100 years or so, it first attracted widespread attention in the early 1990s as one of the typical manifestations involved with the Toronto Blessing movement. The most prominent individual connected with the Holy Laughter phenomenon is South African evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne, who styles himself "Joel's Bartender." This is a reference to the prophecy in the Bible in Joel 2 regarding the pouring out of the Holy Spirit. Those who are overcome with Holy Laughter at Howard-Browne's meetings are viewed as being "drunk with (or in) the Holy Spirit," and some do behave as if physically intoxicated, to the point that they are unable to drive home from meetings. http://www.biblestudy.org/beginner/definition-of-christian-terms/holy-laughter.html
Bisqwit: most awesomest pic eh? Especially if you look at it from a distance.
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I saw the pic when you posted it, but didn't get what's so special about it. Now I've found it on some optical illusions page. And it made me curious. What am I supposed to see in this picture?
I see a girl with 4 eyes and 2 mouths, no matter from which distance I look at it.
I saw the pic when you posted it, but didn't get what's so special about it. Now I've found it on some optical illusions page. And it made me curious. What am I supposed to see in this picture?
I see a girl with 4 eyes and 2 mouths, no matter from which distance I look at it.
I think you're supposed to find that your eyes go a bit screwy as they try to scan the face.
Oh, mine don't. Interesting.
I also failed to see [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-fYSyb982I]this[/URL] illusion correctly before I was told what I was supposed to see. I'm supposed not to be able to see the hollow mask at all (explained [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHuStlT1RM8]here[/URL]), but I find it a lot easier to see than the illusion.
Btw, I also can't see the "magical eye" kind of pictures or 3d movies with 3d glasses. Something seems to be wrong with me. (big news ;))
I got a "magical eye" book as a birthday present once and everybody was so amazed by it, I can remember myself trying for days to see those illusions, but I'd only end up crying. Any helpful advice didn't help at all. I didn't want to give up, but it was no use.
With 3d movies I only realized that I see them less 3d than others when they started ducking out and to me the object seemed to be (at least kind of) hovering only a few inches in front of the screen.
You aren't supposed to see an illusion there, you have to feel weird, it screws with your brain that insists on forming an average face. ie feeling uneasy would be an ok effect, crying too i guess, my eyes tried to cross at some point, brain must have though if you cant beat it join it :P
You aren't supposed to see an illusion there, you have to feel weird, it screws with your brain that insists on forming an average face. ie feeling uneasy would be an ok effect, crying too i guess, my eyes tried to cross at some point, brain must have though if you cant beat it join it :P
All right, whatever, but for a while there was an ad on MySpace that had a picture of a baby edited to have four eyes and two mouths, only it was presented as one of those "Take the Dumb Test" things where the caption was something like "How many eyes do you see? 97% of Americans get this wrong!" And I'm thinking, "How do so many people struggle to count to four? Am I missing something here? Why do I have to see this freaky baby every time I log in to MySpace?"
Oh, by the way, I hate those "Take the Dumb Test" style ads because whatever question is in the ad isn't answered right away by clicking on it; it just takes me to a test with a whole bunch of completely different questions that are also like a poor man's MindTrap--but I only wanted to see the answer to the question that you said bazillions of dumb Americans got wrong! How many eyes did the baby have? How many triangles were there? JUST TELL ME!!!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Oh, mine don't. Interesting.
I also failed to see [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-fYSyb982I]this[/URL] illusion correctly before I was told what I was supposed to see. I'm supposed not to be able to see the hollow mask at all (explained [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHuStlT1RM8]here[/URL]), but I find it a lot easier to see than the illusion.
Interpreting depth perception is different from person to person.
We see in stereo because we have two eyes, and that's one of the main elements the brain uses for depth perception. However, it's in no way the only way. There are tons of other clues the brain uses for depth perception. Even people who are blind on one eye can still perceive depth pretty well. Although there are situations where the perception is a bit impaired for them, they do certainly not see only in "2D".
You can actually test this by yourself, and it works surprisingly well for most people. Just cover one of your eyes and start watching some movie or 3D computer game for a while with one eye only. After a short period of time it will start looking like having depth. This is especially cool when watching 3D games. While the effect is not as good as a real 3D object would be, it's still surprisingly effective. (This effect works only for moving images, not still images.)
What is happening is that when the brain starts receiving image information from one eye only, it starts to compensate by deducing the depth information from other clues, mainly the speed difference between different parts of the image (and after it has got the "hang of it", from size differences resulting from perspective, etc).
Most of these secondary clues the brain uses for depth perception are learned. We have learned during our life to associate certain visual clues with their distance from us. After years and years of having seen these clues, the brain automatically forms depth perception when it sees them.
Most optical illusions based on mistaken depth perception are based on fooling the brain with those clues to give it depth information which isn't really there (or is different from reality).
An example of a learned clue is lighting: We often deduce from lighting alone what the shape of objects are. Many optical illusions are based on giving the "wrong" lighting for something, fooling the brain to think that it has a different shape than it really has. Other illusory clues are related to shape, the dragon example posted above being a good example.
Of course different people perceive and interpret these clues differently, and some optical illusions may work for some people better than for others.
You aren't supposed to see an illusion there, you have to feel weird, it screws with your brain that insists on forming an average face. ie feeling uneasy would be an ok effect, crying too i guess, my eyes tried to cross at some point, brain must have though if you cant beat it join it :P
Well, none of this happens to me.
Thanks Warp, for your explanaition. For some reason I hadn't considered how lots of these optical illutions are almost completely based on individual experience.
Edit: Just for the record, the dragon illusion works for me. Maybe the human faces have so many grooves that my brain detects some clues that the object rather has to be hollow.
That dragon is great for scaring bad kids. BEHAVE! I'LL LEAVE THE DRAGON WATCHING YOU!
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
That dragon is great for scaring bad kids. BEHAVE! I'LL LEAVE THE DRAGON WATCHING YOU!
The problem with that dragon is that it only works well when viewed with one eye only (or similar, eg. through a camera). If you look at it with both eyes the illusion is largely destroyed. Stereo vision largely overrides the subtle clues which make it look "inverted" otherwise.
(Yes, I once did print the picture and built that thing. It's much cooler in the video than in real life... :/ )
Yeah, in real life, you need the keep the viewer a certain distance away from the illusion so their depth perception doesn't take over and notice that the object is inside-out.
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Yeah, in real life, you need the keep the viewer a certain distance away from the illusion so their depth perception doesn't take over and notice that the object is inside-out.
It didn't really help. Even from many meters away the illusion was mostly destroyed by stereo vision. Farther away and it was just so small that it wasn't anything spectacular anymore.
Not again.. I've been looking at [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RFuRY7azgA]this[/URL] for far too long now. Damn cross view. I'm crossing my eyes since forever now and I can't overlap those pictures at all. They always get more instead of less. :(
3 pictures is the least I can get with crossing my eyes. I put my finger between the screen and me, so that when I close my left eye, I see my finger with my right eye in front of the left part of the screen. When I close my right eye, my left eye sees my finger in front of the right half of the screen. So when looking at the finger I should then see the 3d picture, shouldn't I? I see just 3 pictures next to each other then, I don't get this stuff at all.
Also three circles instead of one in 3d in [URL=http://www.vision3d.com/methd04.html]this one[/URL]. I hate myself. [URL=http://www.vision3d.com/frame.html]This[/URL] works though. This stuff always gets me so worked up..
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When doing cross-eyed 3D there should be 3 images. Where the center one is in 3D and the two on the sides are dummy images. It's kinda hard to explain but it's something like this:
Normal view:
[][]
Out of Focus you should be seeing four images, two for each eye:
[r][r] [l][l]
(note that because your eyes are crossed, what the right eye sees is on the left and vice versa)
Then carefully adjust your focus so that these merge together:
[r] [rl] [l]
The center image should have somewhat of a 3D effect. Personally I find this hard to get into and often hard to keep going. And that youtube-clip doesn't really do much with it.
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"Many kids master the skill of crossing their eyes in order to impress family or friends." <-- hahah yeah I did that.
It's easy, but might take a few days to get used to the sensation.. I remember I had migraines after abusing this skill.
wow youtube is in 3D now!
"Genuine self-esteem, however, consists not of causeless feelings, but of certain knowledge about yourself.
It rests on the conviction that you — by your choices, effort and actions — have made yourself into the
kind of person able to deal with reality. It is the conviction — based on the evidence of your own volitional
functioning — that you are fundamentally able to succeed in life and, therefore, are deserving of that success."
- Onkar Ghate
Bisqwit wrote:
The cross-eye video worked surprisingly well for me. In the past I have always had problems getting it to look correct.
I still prefer the inverse: The left and right images are swapped from the cross-eye version, in which case you have to look far into the distance instead to get the single 3D image. What makes it easier is that you can put a paper perpendicularly in the middle so you will only see the left image with your left eye and the right image with your right eye. (The only disadvantage of this method is that the images must be quite small, the distance of their centers being at most the physical distance between your eyes.)
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