This topic is for the purpose of discussing #2642: Mukki's PSX Umihara Kawase Shun in 02:10.23

I have the second edition here, and your run syncs up to the sixth door. edit: watched the last three doors, thank you mz for the encode. by the way, on my CD Rom it's called Fishing Hero: Second edition.

i humbly request an encode Umihara Kawase is one of my favorite snes game, i always wanted to see the psx sequel and even the DS one tassed

Voted yes. The more Umihara Kawase this site has, the better. EDIT: Forgot to thanks mz for the encode, so, thanks mz!

Intuitive impression: Fields 00, 35 might be improveable by some frames. Other than that, it's good. I'm fond of watching this game type being played.

Thanks for the encode, mz! I agree with Brushy. There's a DS version of Umihara Kawase? Why can't I find it on Amazon? ;_;

I really don't know what to think of this. On the face of it, it seems like something I would enjoy watching - the game short, fast-paced and has quirky gameplay mechanics, and the run is technically proficient and certainly builds upon the success of the run of the original game. Yet I don't find myself immersed at all in watching it, as though the run is missing something. Perhaps I don't ever get the sense that the character is ever in any sense of danger, or perhaps I don't understand the point of the game at all, but I just don't find watching this very entertaining. I grudgingly give this a Meh.

Encode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l6i7PZA00 This was very entertaining and short. Yes vote.

thanks mz as exepted, short and sweet, i love it yes vote i'll be happy to see a "longest path" run too

Ahh yes, I'm also looking forward to a sightseeing TAS. Is there a map of the field connections anywhere?

I liked it, it was short, and it kept me entertained. The quirky mechanics seemed to invite potential improvements, but it looked well optimized to my eyes. Here's another yes vote for you.

VERY YES I'm in agreement that it could possibly be better optimized, but optimization has never kept me from voting yes.

Cool gameplay, but I feel that it hasn't enough action. So this series is not new to the site? Anyone want to recommend a run of a more action loaded game in the series?

The SNES version has two TASes: one aiming for speed, and one aiming for maximum levels. I'd say they're both worth watching, though depending on your disposition you may be inclined to skip the bossfights in the latter movie (which aren't "fights" so much as "dodge the boss's attacks until he decides to leave of his own accord").

Wow! That was very impressive! I didn't know, until now, that swinging a fishing rod can be this fun! :-) Move over spiderman! Voting yes obviously!

These games always leave me with a "That was it?" type feeling, because of the lack of any definitive ending... she just goes through another door and the credits roll. But the acrobatics are sure good. I give this a meh just because of the game, not due to any fault of the author.

Want moar. There never seems to be enough Umihara Kawase! Nicos, the DS version is just an anthology release with some extra levels, which probably make it a good candidate for a sightseeing TAS but ultimately useless otherwise: resolution is no better than on either console, and sound is barely different IIRC. Thanks for the encode. Yes vote.

I wonder how possible a 100% run would be that goes through every field at least once.

Definite yes vote. Tasvideos needs more Umihara Kawase. Too bad the games are so short. Perhaps we shouldn't try to beat them too fast.

Canar: at least in the SNES version, such a run would require resetting the game and then replaying through some of the levels, since the game has a branching path that makes most of the levels mutually-exclusive with many other levels. I assume the same is true of the sequel.

Intuitive impression: Fields 00, 35 might be improvable by some frames. Other than that, it's good. I'm fond of watching this game type being played.

I realise that Field 00 looks sloppily played. I hated the idea that I'd have to grab the ledge on the first swing. However, as far as I could see it was unavoidable as I couldn't get the optimal pendulum motion from jumping from the ledge without falling into the water or taking a strat that was ultimately slower. I put it down to having too much vertical velocity when the tension kicked in causing a weird bounce (something that I was able to put to good use in Field 23). Having said that, as Randil put it, this game has a huge scope for improvements. It is incredibly difficult to optimise and there is a huge amount of ways to play every level. I hope that this game sees some competition because I'm sure that there is a lot that has eluded me.

We want more Umihara Kawase!

Agreed. Originally, I had considered trying to improve the current sightseeing TAS, but now I think that a long run of this game would be a better use of my time. The good news is that in order to make this TAS I had to test run many different routes and so I have good solutions for many of the longest route Fields already. I could make a sightseeing run comparatively easily. The longest routes are both 22 Fields (rather than the 9 in this run): 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 08, 09, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 24, 29, 30, 39, 44, 45, 46, 53, 54, 55. 00, 01, 02, 05, 06, 07, 09, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 24, 29, 30, 39, 44, 45, 46, 53, 54, 55. I'd probably just go with the one I find most entertaining. @ Derakon: To answer your question, I get most of my Umihara Kawase information from this website for both games. It'd be great if our Umihara Kawase articles could be improved using some of this information. @ Canar: You can't play every field without redoing some (some fields allow you to get back to field 00), which would probably end up being less entertaining than a normal longest route run.

Favorite youtube comment:

Ah I get it, this is Samus as a kid. Nice grapple beam usage

Thanks mz! Runs of these games always look great since the moves look so difficult to perform in real time. This is also very pretty, even compared to the SNES original. Definite Yes vote.

Oh yeah, I wish samus could do that. Maybe she could, if she just stopped wearing a ton of metal on her body. Umihara Kawase-games are difficult to watch. For someone who doesn't know the game, it's too fast, too unusual to understand what's really going on, and when you almost think you understood, there's a bunch of credits out of nowhere and the run ends. I guess half the viewers just stop watching, the other half continue watching it again and again until they love it. I belong to the second group. Yes vote.

I got the feeling that this could be improved. I will refrain from voting, but it just appeared that some of the movements were not optimal. I refrain from voting because I do not feel like watching the movie again and will not try to make improvements myself.