This topic is for the purpose of discussing #2897: benbenrx8's NES Mendel Palace "100%" in 31:56.26

More information would be nice, and I had to correct the title.

I tried this game out once, and it was actually fairly hard, and I didn't even make it to most of these later levels. I certainly didn't know you could get as many sun tiles as you could. Some of the later stages are more impressive given how challenging they are. However, I think this run could be significantly better. First of all, this really should be a 2-player run. (It's harder to make a 2-player run, certainly, but it should be a lot quicker and more entertaining.) Second, the game is quite repetitive. Third, it seems fairly well-played, but it doesn't feel precise; it seems like you often move a half-tile too much to try getting rid of enemies, or you wait too long before hitting a sun tile. (You did use a low number of rerecords.) All in all, I'm going to have to go with a No vote. Good try, but given how repetitive the game is, it really needs to be played with 2 players to have a chance at being entertaining enough. Oh, and the movie file is much longer than it needs to be. Since you don't hit any buttons during the credits, the input file should just be stopped when you beat the final boss. That would make the movie something like 2 minutes shorter.

alright i will try doing it 2player and for the some tile some of them i have to wait like 1or2second to kill all the ennemis but ill try redoing it 2player thx for the advice

I'm not done yet, but this is actually quite entertaining so far! A large part of it for me is the 'trying to figure out wtf is going on in this game' aspect, so if you've played this a lot before it might be more boring. I have no idea why suns exist. Do they ever not just win when you step on them? Two player would be cool to see, and I guess not be so different that we'd really want both? I dunno. The completist in me says we should have both, but maybe it's not worth it.

483 rerecords is very low for a movie of this length. Either the game is incredibly trivial to play or you're not trying as many possibilities out to see what's fastest as you could be.

This game looks like it was played in real time. Also, you died in one of the later stages? I can see how you didn't lose any progress in so doing, but isn't there a way to avoid the death process? Voting no.

Did you check if there was a thread on this game? There was: a zero-reply thread I made a year and a half ago: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8119&highlight= I posted a WIP of the first few levels in 2-player mode. I got no responses, and my interest soon waned. It's a fantastic game, though, one of the few I still play over and over, and it deserves a good two player run. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1908071748/Mendel%20Palace.fm2 A direct link to my old WIP for comparison. Your run is a good start, but this isn't publishable.

i just wanna to do this game cause i like it and its alot of fun playing it probably i could have try to not die in the later stage but i was faster to die and just finish it after but in 2player mode i would had have the time to flip all tile without dying and for the rerecording well i know alot about this game and some stage were pretty fast the first time i did it and just running to get the sun tile they was not alot of ways to get there but i do agree i could save probably 10min if it was 2player mode but it would have been alot more boring because it would only be go get the sun tile or kill your side ill kill mine

http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1212233732/Mendel_palace-1.fm2 I removed some useless blank frames from this TAS. Im sorry, but this run is too suboptimal. Twisted Eye's WIP above was 1002 frames ahead of you by the end of 2-1. I do realize that he chose a different stage, but its still faster and is very glaring to look at. No Vote. This is indeed a good game chose but I think a run needs to be 2-players for it to be published.

I beat this run by 300 frames in just the first two levels, playing as 1 player. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1762283936/Mendel%20Palace%20%28U%29-0.fm2 While not a bad game choice, this run is clearly suboptimal, from very little work. This is why I'm rejecting this run. Additionally, this run would be much better as two players, as has been stated numerous times. I personally think it would make an interesting run, especially in the later levels.

om, nom, nom... crunchy!

if u beat mine by 300frame just do one then

if u beat mine by 300frame just do one then

Was that an argument that unless someone makes a better version, yours should be published? Just because someone else is not doing a better version is not a good-enough reason to accept a submission with known deficiencies.

any chance for an encode? i love this game and am curious how a TAS would look.

if u beat mine by 300frame just do one then

Was that an argument that unless someone makes a better version, yours should be published? Just because someone else is not doing a better version is not a good-enough reason to accept a submission with known deficiencies.

You read too far into that, Warp. He is simply angry that his didn't get published, so he is telling DK to do it. He didn't say that his should be published until a better one is created.