Posted: 6/2/2011 9:13 PM
Post subject: Not saving ( or converting ) of an .tas ( to .fm2 )
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Skelpolu
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Hey there. Nothing much to add to the title, I just wanted to start making some TAS-movies, but as i downloaded, extracted and tried out the newest official FCEUX version with the TAS-Edit, I can't my .tas or convert it to a .fm2, well, I can, but it contains just free space then, even though I edited something. Please help. I know you hear that line often, but ehm... Hopefully you can help me out. :)
Posted: 6/2/2011 9:21 PM
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On TAS Editor, use File > Export to FM2 to save a .fm2 from TAS Edit.
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Posted: 6/3/2011 6:22 AM
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Skelpolu
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Actually, I was that smart, it saves, but when I reopen it with importing or watching it, it contains nothing.
Posted: 6/3/2011 1:48 PM
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Skelpolu wrote:
Actually, I was that smart, it saves, but when I reopen it with importing or watching it, it contains nothing.
Do you load your movie to FCEUX first, then open TASEditor? It is the only way to actually import it to TASEditor, while the import function itself doesn't work. Also, there is a Recording mode, when all your input gets effaced, being replaced with the real-time input. Or you just get blank movie after all?
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Posted: 6/3/2011 3:03 PM
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I just loaded the game and then went into the TAS Editor. ( maybe the most epic fail on this forum yet? ) Well, I tried what you said, I first loaded the game, then loaded the movie, then the TAS editor but if I set a key, it doesn't gets affected on the next frame. lame.. :/ /edit: Maybe someone can see the problem by using Teamviewer and taking a look what I do..?
Posted: 6/3/2011 3:32 PM
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Can you capture your screen into a video?
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Posted: 6/3/2011 4:24 PM
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Now it doesn't even applies in the TAS-preview-movie, wtf? Here the video of both ways, the first one is the way I used before I got told to load the movie FIRST, which now ALSO doesn't even let me apply some changes, the second one is with loading the movie first, same effect as above. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujHQ9srz1_k Poor video quality since I just used Camstudio for that one.
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:35 PM
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lol, man, things are simpler than you expect (but you couldn't know the real reason because this tool is poorly documented & paused in developenent) After you set input you shall GREENZONE this input, load it into TASEdit. For that you just run your movie just before your input frame. Adelikat had uploaded my video demonstration of work with TASEdit, but for unknown reason keeps it private. If we embed it into this page, life would become easier for guys like you, Skelpolu. For now, see that at least.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:44 PM
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Actually, since I'm German and my English skills aren't that good yet, I just don't get what you mean. Hmm, can you may make a short video about it, please? :s Oh, and yes, I already saw the demonstration, didn't helped at all, sadly.
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:46 PM
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Skelpolu wrote:
Actually, since I'm german and my english skills aren't that good yet, I just don't get what you mean. Hmm, can you may make a short video about it, please? :s
You set input for frame 100 (for example). Then you double-click on the frame 90 (sends TASEdit to this frame) & press ||.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:50 PM
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Ehem, okay, I got that one now, good tip to prevent epic time wasting.^^ But I still got the problems. :/
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:53 PM
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Skelpolu wrote:
But I still got the problems. :/
Either PM them to me, or post in this thread (if they are TASEdit-related).
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 4:57 PM
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Skelpolu
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Are you kidding? :/ THIS whole thread is about these problems! :C
Posted: 6/3/2011 5:00 PM
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Skelpolu wrote:
Are you kidding? :/ THIS whole thread is about these problems! :C
Okay, I hope moderator can move "THIS" thread to the one I linked. Go on, anyway.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 5:05 PM
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Err what, I don't even Now I am totally confused, congratulations feos. :P I guess I just write it down again, a bit more detailed: Like in the video shown, I try to make an input on Frame "blablabla", but if I play it back, it doesnt affects the game as you can see.
Posted: 6/3/2011 5:38 PM
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You said that you "got that one now". I concluded you solved the main problem, but still have other problems. 1. Open TASEdit. 2. Set input to any frame (by double-clicking on a table cell). 3. Run this movie just by sending TASEdit to the very beginning (button <<) & then pressing || button. 4. See it running until your input & having its effect.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 6:02 PM
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Yeah, it was kinda confusing what I wrote down there afterwards. Well, I tried to do so like you said, but it doesn't works. It doesn't takes effect like @ "4." It is so simple, but still doesn't works. Is there any version complication? Any options? I don't get why it doesn't works for me.
Posted: 6/3/2011 6:03 PM
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Go to our IRC for online helping. I'm there now.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/3/2011 6:07 PM
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Skelpolu
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okay, joined, gimme some seconds. I'll edit this post of something new happened in the IRC. /edit: yepp, finally, thanks to feos, it's darn fixed. Thanks. :)
Posted: 6/4/2011 5:49 PM
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here's the promissed video demo: Link to video also, moderator, pls merge this with taseditor thread.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 6/5/2011 1:25 PM
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Yeah, I see. Pretty awesome stuff, enough said :)