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I can't say anything about Nintendo, but there have been several high profile cases of companies pirating their own software for later releases. The one that comes to mind is when Ubisoft pirated the Assassin's Creed Brotherhood soundtrack for release with the deluxe version, documented here.
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For what it's worth, people have found iNES headers on Virtual Console releases of games. Also, [!] does not necessarily mean it's a good dump if you're verifying it with GoodTools, as it's horribly outdated and have many listed as such when they're not. The more popular games listed with a [!] are most likely a good dump, as many more people will have dumped them and can verify it.
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Slowking wrote:
You don't need to to know about emulator devleopment, to know that a DS emulator won't be able to emulate 3DS games. You just need a little shred of common sense for that. So yeah it was the stupidest question ever asked. Or certainly one of the stupidest.
While I do not wish to continue this derail, bear in mind that Dolphin began life as a GameCube emulator. Wii support was added later in its lifetime because the systems were so similar. This is also the case for the DS and 3DS, so it's not stupid to wonder if the same thing might happen.
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Sup, I'm having a bit of trouble TASin lately and thought I'd ask for some help around here (; I'm trying to change the frame of which I pull out a bombchu in a small TA run I'm doing. The trick I'm trying to pull off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ9mrlhxakQ (Trying to land a megaflip onto a chu explosion to start a hover) Now to do this, I obviously just have to delay the frame of which I take out my chu. However doing this without a TAS editor would be extremely annoying to optimize. So I'm trying to use TAS Movie Editor developed by Maximus. all is good, I change the frames I need, and etc, then save it. But this is where the problem starts, as soon as I save the new .m64, and re-open it or play it. all the C stick inputs are fucked. (also when I play it in Mupen, the wrong C inputs are used, hence desyncing my run) Here is a before an after: (left one is before, right one is after) [URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/testinge.png/][/URL] anyone know whats causing me all this grief? : ( I'd appreciate any feedback (:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjPxYBuyz_4 This video is 1 day old on youtube, but you may already know it?
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abeshi copying all the inputs of bloobs TAS onto a japanese rom to get 8 minutes faster? Yeah we know.
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Does the Japanese text really make up all 8 min of improvement? I thought the time difference was less.
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abeshi timed wrong. look at the video, the last input is at 48:20, but as he cut out the intro the time is more like 51:30 or something
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He likes to do that to get better times. He did the same with MM. Well not exactly the same. There he timed to the last hit to Majora. Here he timed to the last input but cut out the intro. So he clearly knows how to time but choses not to. He is such a fraud.
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is that really abeshi? the japanese says masuo (same person?)
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"電源ON~ガノン撃破まで48分27秒00" seems to translate to "48min27s from power-on until last hit on Ganon". So timing was done the same way in both OoT and MM. While confusing at first, it's just the way he times his runs so I wouldn't frown upon abeshi...
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Slowking wrote:
He likes to do that to get better times. He did the same with MM. Well not exactly the same. There he timed to the last hit to Majora. Here he timed to the last input but cut out the intro. So he clearly knows how to time but choses not to. He is such a fraud.
What the fuck do you even remotely know about his motives to call him a fraud? Has he submitted his run here? Has he said his run is currently the world record (tas)? No, so shut your piehole.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Slowking wrote:
abeshi copying all the inputs of bloobs TAS onto a japanese rom to get 8 minutes faster? Yeah we know.
Did you even watch ANYTHING of the movie? It's nothing like Bloob's TAS, and you would notice if you had watched it.
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MUGG wrote:
"電源ON~ガノン撃破まで48分27秒00" seems to translate to "48min27s from power-on until last hit on Ganon". So timing was done the same way in both OoT and MM. While confusing at first, it's just the way he times his runs so I wouldn't frown upon abeshi...
He didn't time that way in his OoT TAS that was published here. (even way before he submitted it here) So he does know how to time TASes properly and he did it when there was no real competition around.
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What the fuck do you even remotely know about his motives to call him a fraud? Has he submitted his run here? Has he said his run is currently the world record (tas)? No, so shut your piehole.
Did the truth hurt your feelings? I'm so very very sorry.
Soulrivers wrote:
Did you even watch ANYTHING of the movie? It's nothing like Bloob's TAS, and you would notice if you had watched it.
Uh would you care to show me big differences? Thanks.
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"He didn't choose to use our timing convention, and even though he clearly stated how it was timed, we should ridicule him because our arbitrary way of timing things is better and his posted time will make us look bad because it isn't represented in the same fashion." How reasonable. If he had written "Thanks to Bloobiebla for certain sections" would it all be okay, or would you still be mad because the OoT team's glory is stolen? The language barrier seems to make it difficult for you to have any understanding of his motivations, so instead you just continue to bash him.
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Soulrivers wrote:
Did you even watch ANYTHING of the movie? It's nothing like Bloob's TAS, and you would notice if you had watched it.
Uh would you care to show me big differences? Thanks.
In only the first five minutes, he takes a different path for the rupees, landing at 49 (which I guess isn't optimal), skips buying the deku stick and therefore listens to Kaepora Gaebora when leaving Kokiri Forest. I have no idea if any of this saves time though. In any case, I'm sure he was taking notes from Bloob's run, but to say he copy-pasted the input is just being ignorant. I should say that I myself have no shame in completely replicating parts of a previous movie's input if I can't find any improvement when trying to obsolete it. I've done it for all movies I've obsoleted and I don't think there is anything wrong with doing so. So even if there are some sections, small or big, that he completely copied/replicated, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as he added some content of his own, which he apparently did.
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Kirkq wrote:
"He didn't choose to use our timing convention, and even though he clearly stated how it was timed, we should ridicule him because our arbitrary way of timing things is better and his posted time will make us look bad because it isn't represented in the same fashion." How reasonable. If he had written "Thanks to Bloobiebla for certain sections" would it all be okay, or would you still be mad because the OoT team's glory is stolen? The language barrier seems to make it difficult for you to have any understanding of his motivations, so instead you just continue to bash him.
I'm not mad. I'm quite indifferent. Just saying how it is. People here seem to become really really mad though. Thing is TASes were always and always will be timed by the length of the movie file. It's not completely arbitrary it's actually the most clear cut timing for speedruns out there. Even abeshi knows how to time TASes as he timed his first ones correctly. If he did time this way from the beginning I would cut him some slack, but he didn't. And yeah writing "Thanks to Bloobiebla for certain sections" would imo be the least he could do. Though he shold probably write "Thanks to Bloobiebla for 90% of this TAS".
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In only the first five minutes, he takes a different path for the rupees, landing at 49 (which I guess isn't optimal), skips buying the deku stick and therefore listens to Kaepora Gaebora when leaving Kokiri Forest. I have no idea if any of this saves time though. In any case, I'm sure he was taking notes from Bloob's run, but to say he copy-pasted the input is just being ignorant.
So he couldn't get the luck manipulation since that won't hex. You are kind of making my point for me here.
I should say that I myself have no shame in completely replicating parts of a previous movie's input if I can't find any improvement when trying to obsolete it. I've done it for all movies I've obsoleted and I don't think there is anything wrong with doing so. So even if there are some sections, small or big, that he completely copied/replicated, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as he added some content of his own, which he apparently did.
Well I for one think you should at least give credit when you do that. However there is a big difference between taking small parts here and there and copying 80-90% of the movie. Just saying...
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Given that he hasn't submitted it here, and that Japanese players probably appreciate the existence of a TAS in their language, this seems pretty benign. It would be interesting to know if there are any significant improvements anywhere in the run that could apply to future versions of the English TAS...
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Hmm yeah he could at least time correctly, though. Since he knows how it's done. Btw. reading back I can see how people might have thought I was mad. "fraud" maybe is a little bit too strong a word. Sometimes it's hard to find the correct vocabulary for what you want to say without sounding to harsh if english is your second language. ;) Well only improvement I noticed is that he pulled out the odd mushroom twice, thus saving some time. But that was already known. It seems he didn't read the submission thread, since the improvement I noticed isn't in the movie.
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XD @ the abeshi defence force out in full attack mode in this topic. Never change, TASVideos.
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Has there ever been any reason to believe abeshi has intentionally and blatantly tried to claim credit for Bloob's input as his own? I am sincerely asking, because I can't remember. I know a lot of the OoT runners don't like him, and I can understand why. I'm just curious if he's the scum of the earth or just a guy who's limited by the language barrier. Maybe someone can clarify this for me?
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Slowking wrote:
So he couldn't get the luck manipulation since that won't hex. You are kind of making my point for me here.
Yeah, I watched just the first 5 minutes of both. The camera angles are totally different, the town entrance uses an extra swordslash... So this whole "OMG HE HEXED AND STOLE BLOOBIEBLAS INPUT" is a total bunch of made-up bullshit by SlowKing. He has no proof, other than they take a similar route.
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Assuming the 6.5 minute time difference stated in Bloob's publication text is accurate, this run is still nearly two minutes slower than Bloobiebla's. This is probably just another case of TASing-for-fun that people are taking way too seriously.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Yeah, I watched just the first 5 minutes of both. The camera angles are totally different, the town entrance uses an extra swordslash... So this whole "OMG HE HEXED AND STOLE BLOOBIEBLAS INPUT" is a total bunch of made-up bullshit by SlowKing. He has no proof, other than they take a similar route.
You really don't listen, do you? He couldn't use bloobs original rupee route, since that manipulation won't hex. So he did a suboptimal one himself. And he probably didn't get the water HISS to hex either, since it's very desynch prone and to my knowledge Bloob is the only one who ever got that slide to work to begin with. So he used a suboptimal method here as well. Just because he simply can't hex or directly replicate some small parts doesn't mean he didn't do it where he could.