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Someone asked for this... i'm just doing it for im... no speedruns... only showing all the game secrets and beating very high scores if possible at the same time... the hardest thing is the archery ... ( LOT OF RETRY!!) REmoved my image :P
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I am doing the same already...
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dup, are you sure it's ok to link to images on foreign site [www.nesfiles.com]?
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What shall we do; let Bisqwit decide which one looks better?
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That's what will happen if I get the same play from many authors...
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Then finish it :) ... your speedruns are surely better then mines :P I've started an Adventure Island run at the same time, so i will be able to finish it sooner.
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A friend of mine did an Adventure Island speed run and it is at my site. It is a very long and hard game, the lenght of the video is 40:20, you'll get a pain in the %$&, trust me :)
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I'm surprised that the makers of Track & Field didn't put any special code to the game for players who seem to play impossibly. But it's fun to think a human running 15 meters/second (54 km/h) :)
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Yeah Island is kinda hard... and im trying to do the whole game skating as much as I can! Lot of jumping in this game hehehe! And for track and field ... jumping 6-7 time the height of the player is not realistic either... lol... try shooting the javelin as high as you can .... i think its 80degres ... you will have a nice surprise... and for the shooting part.... try getting a score over 27000 ... that's the score I always get... shooting the crow 4 times
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 			Arc                  	US movie	European movie(most recent movie)             
100m run:		7:20                	7:20   		7:20
Long Jump:      	14m66             	14m66		14m66
110 Hurdles:    	9:59                	9:49		9:48
Javelin Throw:   	137m65            	137m65		137m65
Skeet Shooting:  	26300              	28200		28200
Triple Jump:      	25m01             	25m39		25m39
Archery             	4800              	5800		5800
High Jump:       	2m26                 	2m26		2m26

Final score:     	168650               	210660		218500
Edit: Ok, I've edited that post to compare movies. All of them don't aim for best final score. Also, in european, bonuses were obtained which make the movie slower.
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I guess that means I'll have to watch it over and over and over... then try it myself, and get annoyed with my lack of perfection :)
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Bisqwit have just refused my run on this game.So maybe you could compare.Is my run better than Arc's run or Arc's better than me? Mine Arc PS. For more details check there https://tasvideos.org/forum/topics/223
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Did he give any reason to why he refused it?
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<Bisqwit> Hmh, Genisto didn't the demonstrate "off by 1 degree" fault in Long Jump. <Bisqwit> I'm not really happily taking this one if it's only purpose is to beat Arc's times <PhilC> I don't understand what you're saying <Bisqwit> Genisto got 45 degrees 3 times in Long jump <Bisqwit> He didn't demonstrate what happens if you get 46 degrees <Bisqwit> Arc did <PhilC> Yeah and? <Bisqwit> Well this isn't nice <PhilC> ok but demonstrate the speed <Bisqwit> Well there was three thries <Bisqwit> tries <PhilC> The speed is more important than degree <Bisqwit> You only need one of them to demonstrate your superiority <PhilC> anyway check ther others disciplin <PhilC> it happens only once <Bisqwit> The second javelin throw is also really bad. It's not funny or anythinfg <Bisqwit> -f <PhilC> :@ <Bisqwit> I'm happy that you made those records, but I'm not taking this video <PhilC> It was pretty long to do this video I' really not happy about your attitude <Bisqwit> I'm not evaluating efforts but results. <PhilC> results is there btw <Bisqwit> The second triple jump wasn't nice either... <PhilC> It took my weekend to do this all I know it was refused <Bisqwit> I'm thinking of adding it as a supplement to the entry, but I might do it later <PhilC> Arc have done major mistakes in archery and skeet shooting <PhilC> It was easy to do 28 200 in skeet shooting <PhilC> and archery we obtained the bonus <PhilC> not Arc That's our conversation.
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying he wanted you to purposely mess up? Aren't the videos supposed to be perfect? Edit: I don't understand what Bisqwit means when he says something isn't nice, for example "Well this isn't nice" or "The second triple jump wasn't nice either..." Does he mean that it's not nice to get better scores than Arc?
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has Arc seen it? If he also believes that your run is better than his then I'm sure that will help settle it. I think what Bisqwit was saying is that the aesthetic component of this game is more important than speed (since it was classified as an aesthetic run to begin with).
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has arc seen it? If he concurs that your run is better than his then I'm sure it will settle it. Why does it matter if Arc thinks it's better than his. It's not an opinion question, just compare the scores and you'll see which is better.
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it would help to have the imput of someone who has spent time doing the run as well. If both authors agree that the run is better, then it will help support Phil's claim. Remember that Arc meant his run to be an aesthetic form, so scores aren't the only thing in question. (I edited my post a bit just seconds after you posted)
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My total time was longer by like 40 seconds because the archery disciplin was longer than him due to the bonus.
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I say atleast suppliment it to the run by Arc.
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Some things are better: the hurdles and archery. Others are debateable aesthetically. I think that your high jump is worse. I think that another issue is underlying. Look at Castlevania. Bisqwit made 8 time attacks for it and thought of some extremely innovative ideas (inspiring my later Ghosts 'n Goblins videos and in general improving my subsequent time attacks.) Then instead of telling Bisqwit in the Castlevania thread that you discovered that the character can be used as a critical hit on bosses, you said that you would make your own (taking all of his ideas and adding a little). 'Sorry Bisqwit . LOL' Some games should be competed. In others, I believe that you should just assist the original creator if s/he is interested in improving it.
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Arc wrote:
Look at Castlevania. Bisqwit made 8 time attacks for it and thought of some extremely innovative ideas (inspiring my later Ghosts 'n Goblins videos and in general improving my subsequent time attacks.) Then instead of telling Bisqwit in the Castlevania thread that you discovered that the character can be used as a critical hit on bosses, you said that you would make your own (taking all of his ideas and adding a little)
What are you trying to say??? I think my Castlevania 3 inspired him to do his v8 btw by "adding a little" I think it's adding a lot.26 seconds is saved and it's a lot.Yeah it sure his version inspired us to do this timeattack.Are you frustrated because we managed to do a lot better than you?Btw you didn't inspire me to do T&F I think it's you who should inspire from us. Edit. BTW it's Bisqwit himself who said that we should improve the games on his site instead of starting some boring or unknown games.So that's what I have done.
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Shortly said, I refused the Track'n Field submission because its goal seemed to be "ego", not "entertainment". Its only motivator was to "beat" Arc. It did that - it found bigger score and better times in many tasks. Arc aimed for that too, but he also tried to demonstrate what happens if you do even slight looking mistakes. I like Arc's goal better. I couldn't care less of the exact "best numbers". The mission "this isn't humanly possible" has already been reached, and I'm satisfied with that. My site is not an ego collection. It's for entertaining movies. If a movie happens to improve records (especially someone else's) but is less interesting, I'll reject it. I did that once for Michael Fried's SMB3 movie, too. Regarding Castlevania v8, the Akumajou Densetsu run wasn't an inspiring factor. I had just watched the faults of v7 movie long enough to decide how to improve it.
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Bisqwit wrote:
Shortly said, I refused the Track'n Field submission because its goal seemed to be "ego", not "entertainment". Its only motivator was to "beat" Arc.
1st. You are very wrong first the total time is 40 seconds slower. 2nd. I have done some mistakes that are really visible. 3rd. I didn't do the best scores.
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It did that - it found bigger score and better times in many tasks. Arc aimed for that too, but he also tried to demonstrate what happens if you do even slight looking mistakes.
You can see the same thing in my video.
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I like Arc's goal better. I couldn't care less of the exact "best numbers". The mission "this isn't humanly possible" has already been reached, and I'm satisfied with that.
At 110m hurdles I have managed to do 9:54,having Archery 5800 is possible and 100m run.All these disciplin can be easily be done at full.You only need to know what to do.
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My site is not an ego collection. It's for entertaining movies. If a movie happens to improve records (especially someone else's) but is less interesting, I'll reject it. I did that once for Michael Fried's SMB3 movie, too.
It's not an "ego" movie.You are very wrong.
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Regarding Castlevania v8, the Akumajou Densetsu run wasn't an inspiring factor. I had just watched the faults of v7 movie long enough to decide how to improve it.
ok anyway it's not the subject there.It's Arc who suddenly decided to change the subject.
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I was deceived at first.But now I don't mind if it is published as a supplement.