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Improved the current submission by 2203 frames.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: FCEUX 2.1.6 TASEditor
  • Takes damage to save time
  • Manipulates luck

Comments

Framewar bla bla bla...
Bosses are manipulated by entering their rooms in different frames. I didn't work out all possible patterns though.
If you are blinking from being damaged you can't scroll the screen up. This means even when you can damage boost up, you still have to wait until you stop blinking.
On the other side, there's a moving platform in clock tower level that starts moving down and left once you spawn it with screen scrolling. Fisker lost a bunch of frames waiting for it to go up again to be able to reach the platform above. I instead take damage to prevent scrolling too fast anf spawn this platform at the very moment when I'm over it already, so I jump & reach the upper platform easily.
Though this caused the last in-level elevators to start movig later. I mean, I make the screen scroll up til the end later, and it scrolled right then later too. The result is some lost frames because I had to wait while the last elevator goes up enough. I tried to scroll the screen so fast that I would be able to jump on that last elevator BEFORE it goes down. but a silly couple of pixels didn't allow me to reach the last platform that early D:
Much time was saved thanks to picking less R/R icons. Each icon costs 4 frames on he countdown.
Also, I reduced random lag by random jumps and taking damage, as well as by route changes.
Somewhere you could pick boxes to go further faster, where these boxes are on your way. But it almost always causes lag, and while you don't lose frames picking them, the throw animation is quite long.
But the greatest improvement was the Ghost Witch fight and the Crocodile battle. The former was killed before she disappears after throwing the second stone. And the croc just used another pattern in my run, that was much faster. Other bosses are improved as well, but no that much.
Comparison table will be done later.
There's a glitched red ball in the first boss room. If you fall along the left corner of the central platform and press Right and B, you would pick it. But you need something to boost you yout of the gap, use the rabbit boss or his water drops for that. The strategy of using thes ball along with boxes wasn't tested because the glitch was found after I already finished a half of the run, with manipalated bosses.

Thanks to

  • AnS for TASEditor (you won't believe your eyes when it's released).
  • fisker N. for strategical stuff I used here.
  • goofydylan8 for unleashing teh framewar.

DarkKobold: Accepting as the latest winner in the frame war.

DarkKobold: Delayed, the frame war continues.
feos: Cancelling due to new iteration with 2 authors we're working on right now.

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I'm giving up the 2 player run because of shitty behaviour of the second boss. "Has no randomness"? Huh! I copy the current run's input for that boss and it doesn't work! And making my own input I can not at all charge my second attack in time, the boss flies up. The copied imput fails to charge even the first attack! The main factor here is that you need to walk on the ground with your carried partner to charge it, but not while the wind is blowing. Either it stops blowing too late, or the boss ges down too early. Maybe that reads from RNG for something, but you can affect RNG value only by waiting during the level, that gets it out of sync. That somehow proves my philosophy of not trying to improve the old runs without true timesavers. Even if I polish it, no one will notice the difference, and stupid record is not my goal at TASVideos.
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feos wrote:
That somehow proves my philosophy of not trying to improve the old runs without true timesavers.
I don't think that the philosophy (not aiming to improve old runs without significant timesavers) needs to be "proved" in any way. I think that the philosophy is only logical; I don't put work into something unless it is warranted. In this case, I only work on a TAS if I feel there is an inherent worth in it being completed, whether it is because of final time, new methods, viewer entertainment, or such. By the way, I think the intended word is "justifies" rather than "proves".