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I'll pick up a tablet PC as my portable computer and leave my laptop at home most of the time.
Sounds like you should have got a desktop. I hate people who buy overpriced crap like this when they could have just got a $600 desktop with better performance, and then plan to not even take it anywhere.
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rog wrote:
I'll pick up a tablet PC as my portable computer and leave my laptop at home most of the time.
Sounds like you should have got a desktop. I hate people who buy overpriced crap like this when they could have just got a $600 desktop with better performance, and then plan to not even take it anywhere.
Agreed 110%. Everything about a desktop computer is always massively superior to a laptop computer, excepting the one property: portability. A lot of people I know are like that too. They have laptop computers and would never even consider a desktop computer, but they don't actually do any real portable computing with them. When pressed on the issue, the usual response is some bullshit "use it in my bedroom and then move it to the couch!"... like that's worth the price.
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natt wrote:
When pressed on the issue, the usual response is some bullshit "use it in my bedroom and then move it to the couch!"... like that's worth the price.
Laptops are cheaper than desktop computers. The cheapest 15" laptops cost about 3000 kr in Sweden, while desktop computers that suck maybe even more than the 15" laptop costs more than 3000 kr, plus you have to count the fact that the laptop has everything built in it, like the screen and speakers, so the cheapest desktop actually costs 4500 kr.
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If you don't have a monitor, or speakers, then it's posisble (still not too likely though) that the cheapest laptop would be cheaper than the cheapest desktop. However if you want more horsepower than is needed to check your email and play farmville, then desktops can be 2-3x cheaper for the same performance.
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Another good thing about laptops is that they get less dust on them, because you can fold it together. So if you worry about overheating, you might want to get a laptop. Desktop computers have a lot of large holes in them, which suck dust in them, and it overheats the components, and you can't suck the dust with your vacuum cleaner or you'll destroy your computer. In laptops, the holes are so small so the dust can't get in so easily. And if you like upgrading your computer, you might also want to get a laptop, because they're easier to upgrade. You just have to open a small hatch under the computer to put in some more RAM, kinda like switching a new SD card into your camera. But on a desktop computer, when you're upgrading RAM, you'll risk destroying expensive parts, like your GTX 690, because of static electricity. That's another reason desktop computers can get expensive. That's 1000$ lost in a few seconds. If you would lose 1000$ in every minute, that would already be 60000$ in an hour. Desktop computers are dying: http://www.the4thdimension.net/2010/12/are-desktop-computers-obsolete-or-dead.html "Google Europe sales chief John Herlihy says that the Desktop computer will reach its end of life in 3 years"
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So if you worry about overheating, you might want to get a laptop.
HOLY SHIT, this is so wrong, i don't even know whta to say. Laptops get absurdly hot. My laptop can hit almost 90C at full load. A desktop with decent cooling would never get that hot, even if you literally never cleaned it.
And if you like upgrading your computer, you might also want to get a laptop, because they're easier to upgrade. You just have to open a small hatch under the computer to put in some more RAM, kinda like switching a new SD card into your camera. But on a desktop computer, when you're upgrading RAM, you'll risk destroying expensive parts, like your GTX 690, because of static electricity. That's another reason desktop computers can get expensive. That's 1000$ lost in a few seconds. If you would lose 1000$ in every minute, that would already be 60000$ in an hour.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Laptops are typically impossible to upgrade at all, except for ram and hdd. And you have to be retarded to destroy anything when switching some ram sticks.
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Now, now, let's keep it civil. rog, you may want to familiarize yourself with nfq's style of posting which this conversation is a typical example of. In short, he's the resident wacko. :D
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
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rog wrote:
I hate people who buy overpriced crap like this when they could have just got a $600 desktop with better performance, and then plan to not even take it anywhere.
I take my laptop to school almost every day for research. You hate me?
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nfq wrote:
…you can't suck the dust with your vacuum cleaner or you'll destroy your computer.
you should see what I do to my computer when I clean it, lol
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4/10 bad keyboard layout, no trackpoint equivalent and shitty 16:9 resolution display (yeah, I know, almost nobody sells 16:10 anymore...) You don't want to know what I spent on my notebook (fully loaded Precision M4400) ~2-3 years ago.
They still make those?
Absolutely. Dell and Lenovo are the holdouts of this superior technology. (Don't really understand the point of stressful constant movement of the hand and wrist on a touchpad. But Apple knows better and even sells a desktop version of a touchpad now...)
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I hate you. I have no reason to, really, it's just hating is the in thing right now.
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rog wrote:
HOLY SHIT, this is so wrong, i don't even know whta to say.
Yeah, you look very surprised in your avatar, and you're even losing your ability to spell properly because you were so astonished by my ignorance.
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nfq wrote:
rog wrote:
HOLY SHIT, this is so wrong, i don't even know whta to say.
Yeah, you look very surprised in your avatar, and you're even losing your ability to spell properly because you were so astonished by my ignorance.
"whta" isn't a spelling problem, it's a typing problem. But yes, i was quite astonished by your ignorance. Like, literally everything you said is not just not true, but the opposite is. And surprise is definitely not the emotion my avatar is meant to convey.
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rog wrote:
Like, literally everything you said is not just not true, but the opposite is.
I still maintain my hypothesis that nfq is just a poe. Anyways, laptop or desktop, it depends on what you want to do with it. Laptops are not very good gaming platforms. While they have improved quite a lot, there's still a reason why desktop graphics cards look like miniature nuclear power plants: CPUs aren't much behind that either: In a laptop such things have much higher requirements in terms of low energy consumption and heat production, which inevitably means that corners need to be cut, which means lower framerates.
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Warp wrote:
rog wrote:
Like, literally everything you said is not just not true, but the opposite is.
I still maintain my hypothesis that nfq is just a poe. Anyways, laptop or desktop, it depends on what you want to do with it. Laptops are not very good gaming platforms. While they have improved quite a lot, there's still a reason why desktop graphics cards look like miniature nuclear power plants: CPUs aren't much behind that either: In a laptop such things have much higher requirements in terms of low energy consumption and heat production, which inevitably means that corners need to be cut, which means lower framerates.
I think it's funny how people assume that I'll primarily be using this for gaming. I don't have time for gaming these days, but I do like having the option available to me. Even more importantly, I don't play FPSes, Elder Scrolls, or other graphics-intensive games. If you believe this guide, I can keep up with most modern games at medium to high settings.
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I think it's funny how people assume that I'll primarily be using this for gaming.
What about cpu intensive things, like i don't know, emulation? If performance on these things isn't that important to you, then you grossly overspent. If it is, then you'd be far better off with a desktop.
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rog wrote:
I think it's funny how people assume that I'll primarily be using this for gaming.
What about cpu intensive things, like i don't know, emulation? If performance on these things isn't that important to you, then you grossly overspent. If it is, then you'd be far better off with a desktop.
Or perhaps-- as I'll say for at least the third time-- I need to be able to carry my computer with me.
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Right, that is a fair point. Laptops are extremely useful for this reason. I don't know what i'd do without mine. The question though, is do you really need to carry that kind of performance around with you? Because for the same price you could have gotten a significantly better desktop, as well as a cheap laptop.
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rog wrote:
Right, that is a fair point. Laptops are extremely useful for this reason. I don't know what i'd do without mine. The question though, is do you really need to carry that kind of performance around with you? Because for the same price you could have gotten a significantly better desktop, as well as a cheap laptop.
We'll see. I travel a decent amount and I can't imagine leaving my computer behind. I also anticipate moving sometime in the next year or two and the space in my car is quite limited. Of course my computer is the top priority, but the more space it takes up, the more other stuff will inevitably be left behind. Also...
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Bobo the King wrote:
True wrote:
4/10 bad keyboard layout, no trackpoint equivalent and shitty 16:9 resolution display (yeah, I know, almost nobody sells 16:10 anymore...) You don't want to know what I spent on my notebook (fully loaded Precision M4400) ~2-3 years ago.
They still make those?
Absolutely. Dell and Lenovo are the holdouts of this superior technology. (Don't really understand the point of stressful constant movement of the hand and wrist on a touchpad. But Apple knows better and even sells a desktop version of a touchpad now...)
I used a touchpad for eight years and didn't mind it and I'm planning on picking up one of these as soon as I can afford it.
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Bobo the King wrote:
I don't have time for gaming these days
I think that's a sad state of affairs...
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Warp wrote:
Bobo the King wrote:
I don't have time for gaming these days
I think that's a sad state of affairs...
Cheer up! I have more time for physics!