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Posted: 8/17/2012 5:39 PM
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Post subject: Inappropriate behavior in the OoT thread.
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Spider-Waffle
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Synx wrote:
I admire your charity towards the poor guy. Giving him some good words. But in the end it turned out that he was as wrong as always.
I know a couple of you people love to libel me as some poor guy that's always wrong; I guess the history lesson and success of my speedrunning ideals aren't getting through, but I digress. Slowking seems have come to logic and reason, but the rest of you that said you were going to ignore me, could you please ignore me like you keep posting in the forum saying you were doing instead of cluttering the forum further more with libel and senseless close minded rhetoric. I've always done my best to keep the discussion open minded and productive with the ultimate goal of systematically and objectively finding the fastest strategy possible. I'll continue to do this with sensible users like slowking, mrgrunz, sockfolder, and cosmo. If you are in phennoh's camp and can't handle this line of reason, please don't reply to my posts, you like said you would...
But couldn't we simply beat the rest of the game (after buying Shield and Stick right before Deku Tree) with one Deku Stick? You can kill Gohma and Ganon using ISG. You can Mega Flip instead of jumpslashing in Deku Tree to skip B1. We get Slingshot now anyway, so no need to get Deku Nuts. Of course, you can't use a lot of timesavers here and there, so unfortunately, it should be damn close.
I still think it's likely -1 to 15 seconds faster. The small sword tricks save very minimal amount of time ~9s (3s in river, 3s cuccos, and maybe ~3s before in fall before ghoma) compared to the ~29s or w/e saved from skipping sword. Slowking makes a good studious point about the stick text differences, ~4.5s. So maybe it's more like, -5.5s to 10.5s faster. **EDIT** I would care to issue an ultimatum. If this doesn't turn out faster I will cease ALL activity related to Oot speedruns and TASes for 10 years. If it does turn out faster all my doubters, libelers, and close minded non-productive people to the community will cease ALL activity related to OoT speedruns and TASes for 10 years. This includes IRC, ANY forum, ANY online stream site, ANY video hosting site such as http://www.youtube.com/, http://zeldaspeedruns.com/ http://speeddemosarchive.com/, and ANY internet relay chat, voice, or video such as AIM, ICQ, Skype, google chat, MSN, yahoo chat, Roger Wilco, Ventrilo, ect.; so long as the activity has any relevance to OoT speedruns and TASes. IP addresses and locations will be tracked, no new accounts will be made. It is a cease and desist and we can work out a legal binding document. In 10 years the losing parties can return as normal as wiser more open minded individuals and work cooperatively together. You can either accept this and be included in the legal document, or, apologize to me and say "I am sorry Mr. Piepho, it will never happen again and I'll be MUCH more open minded in the future", or let it be know to the entire community that you are a worthless coward and troll and will hopefully be ostracized by the community itself. If you choose the latter I will also file internet libel lawsuits against you, and you can see how well connected to University of Washington School of Law I am, as well as meet me in court or settle. You have 3 choices, choose wisely.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:26 AM
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Pheenoh
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Please sue me over a video game, it will make my fucking life.
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:59 AM
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Spider-Waffle wrote:
If you choose the later I will also file internet libel lawsuits against you and you can see how will connected to University of Washington School of Law I am as well as meet me in court or settle. You have 3 chooses, choose wisely.
something tells me you don't know what libel means...
Posted: 8/18/2012 3:37 AM
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Spider-Waffle wrote:
**EDIT** I would care to issue an ultimatum. If this doesn't turn out faster I will cease ALL activity related to Oot speedruns and TASes for 10 years. If it does turn out faster all my doubters, libelers, and close minded non-productive people to the community will cease ALL activity related to OoT speedruns and TASes for 10 years. This includes IRC, ANY forum, ANY online stream site, ANY video hosting site such as http://www.youtube.com/, http://zeldaspeedruns.com/ http://speeddemosarchive.com/, and ANY internet relay chat, voice, or video such as AIM, ICQ, Skype, google chat, MSN, yahoo chat, Roger Wilco, Ventrilo, ect.; so long as the activity has any relevance to OoT speedruns and TASes. IP addresses and locations will be tracked, no new accounts will be made. It is a cease and desist and we can work out a legal binding document. In 10 years the losing parties can return as normal as wiser more open minded individuals and work cooperatively together. You can either accept this and be included in the legal document, or, apologize to me and say "I am sorry Mr. Piepho, it will never happen again and I'll be MUCH more open minded in the future", or let it be know to the entire community that you are a worthless coward and troll and will hopefully be ostracized by the community itself. If you choose the later I will also file internet libel lawsuits against you and you can see how will connected to University of Washington School of Law I am as well as meet me in court or settle. You have 3 chooses, choose wisely.
Thank you, this is the funniest thing I have ever read on this site.
What's a man like me supposed to do with all this extra savoir-faire?
Posted: 8/18/2012 4:16 AM
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Posted: 8/18/2012 4:53 AM
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Did someone just hack SW's account?
Posted: 8/18/2012 8:15 AM
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Spider-Waffle
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Pheenoh wrote:
Please sue me over a video game, it will make my fucking life.
So is that your way of saying your a faceless coward troll to the entire community who doesn't accept my ultimatum?
qwerty1065 wrote:
something tells me you don't know what libel means...
Something tells me you don't what it means, hint it's not remedial spelling mistakes in informal communication. Try searching "internet libel lawsuit" in google, and then in an acclaimed law school's archive. And how many Technical Communication classes have you taken btw? ("btw" is not spelling mistake in informal communication) I'm guessing you are announcing to the entire community that you are a faceless coward troll as well? So it seems Pheenoh and qwerty have let it be known to the community how cowardly and troll-like they are, sit behind their parent's computer, libeling away with ad hominems and senseless, indecent, rhetoric about how my suggestion is obviously a waste of time and you're going ignore me because of it. I issue you an ultimatum and you back off in your own cowardly way of trolling and snide remarks. Could you at least go back to twitch and stay there with your tail between your legs and ignore me like you kept saying you would (I guess you don't keep to your word either)? There are intelligent people that use this forum which would like continue productive conversation, you've clearly proven to the community you aren't one of these such people.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Posted: 8/18/2012 8:26 AM
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In a way, I am thoroughly enjoying how Sipder-Waffle is bitchslapping his trolls :) Buuuuuuuut: 1) It's absurd to threaten with a lawsuit. 2) Relax. 3) It's.. "just" a game. 4) Why so serious? :P Stop derailing this thread, be nice to each other. If you can't handle that, then ignore each other.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 8/18/2012 8:34 AM
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Spider-Waffle
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AngerFist wrote:
In a way, I am thoroughly enjoying how Sipder-Waffle is bitchslapping his trolls :) Buuuuuuuut: 1) It's absurd to threaten with a lawsuit. 2) Relax. 3) It's.. "just" a game. 4) Why so serious? :P Stop derailing this thread, be nice to each other. If you can't handle that, then ignore each other.
I completely agree, but sometimes kids need to be taught a lesson once for all they will never forget. They've been cluttering these forums for far too long and it's time they leave once and for all with their troll tails between their troll legs. I am not a guy to be taken lightly, and I think I've proven that and many can attest for that. If you've ever known someone more determined than me I'd love to meet them.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Posted: 8/18/2012 8:44 AM
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Spider-Waffle wrote:
If you've ever known someone more determined than me I'd love to meet them.
Batman! :) Bane destroyed his back but he returned and saved Gotham once again!
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 8/18/2012 8:46 AM
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yo spiderwaffle i made this account just to let you know you're probably the dumbest person i've ever seen on the internet and i can't possibly understand why or how you are alive. cheers for the laughs dumbass
Posted: 8/18/2012 9:43 AM
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groobo
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SW: Haven't you thought about making a tas, of the part you're so sure would be faster with your method, by yourself? It's not a question really - either gtfo and PROVE that you're right, or stop making a dumbass out of yourself.
Posted: 8/18/2012 10:58 AM
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Yes, it would be quicker and easier to learn tasing this game yourself instead of starting endless arguing for months, like you do, SW. At least it's a better solution than calling names and insulting everyone else for being mean to you. You're not being productive and not encouraging anyone to help you with testing your ideas. Also, i respect you very much as a player and your dedication is admirable, but your handling of this situation is incredibly immature, and it would be sad if you get banned from this place too. It doesn't matter what others think anyway, just ignore the "ignorant" people if you're so sure you're right, what's the problem.
Posted: 8/18/2012 11:52 AM
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I am speechless.
Posted: 8/18/2012 12:08 PM
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To be honest spider-waffle, I've taken you lightly for all the time I've known you. Please prove me otherwise.
Posted: 8/18/2012 12:20 PM
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Posted: 8/18/2012 12:45 PM
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Posted: 8/18/2012 12:50 PM
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Synx
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Where did he go? It's not like him to give up.
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:19 PM
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A .jpg is the best file type to save that little piece of internet posting history right?
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:23 PM
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Paused wrote:
A .jpg is the best file type to save that little piece of internet posting history right?
No, JPG is good for photos. PNG is much better for screenshots. ...I posted in the OoT topic. I never thought it would happen.
Posted: 8/18/2012 1:28 PM
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Posted: 8/18/2012 1:31 PM
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Can we stop with the images? It's helping even less than everything else here.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 4:44 PM
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lol. Spider-Waffle reviving this topic singlehandedly. Could this have been his masterplan all along?
Posted: 8/18/2012 5:48 PM
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Spider-Waffle
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groobo wrote:
SW: Haven't you thought about making a tas, of the part you're so sure would be faster with your method, by yourself? It's not a question really - either gtfo and PROVE that you're right, or stop making a dumbass out of yourself.
I have, and I've tried, and I've helped with some testing for blob before and some other things, but ultimately I found the curve to be highly proficient to be higher than what I have the time for and I chose to focus on other things more important in my life. And yes I agree it would be great if I was highly proficient with in game OoT TASing and could give everyone the definitive proof they need to see to accept anything beyond idiocracy. I know many close minded people would love to see me leave, which is why I've given them the perfect opportunity to see that happen. My suggestion which they've so blatantly dismissed as idiocracy, I am putting on the line. So it's time they put their OoT speedrunning existence where their mouth is or stop talking.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 6:25 PM
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