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Warp wrote:
It's quite clear that his religious beliefs prompted him to write about them, rather than they being truly popular because of appearing in mass media.
If that's how you saw it, so be it. I personally didn't see it that way.
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." - 1 Corinthians 2:9
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I think that in his zealousness to be politically correct, someone has forgotten to be human.
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Bisqwit wrote:
I think that in his zealousness to be politically correct, someone has forgotten to be human.
Good lord. Knock it off. Both of you. I was considering jumping in earlier to tell Warp (as a card-carrying atheist myself) that he should pick his battles more judiciously, but now your comment smacks of such un-Christian condescension that there's now plenty of shame to go around. Stop it. We get it. You're a Christian. Warp is an atheist. (Or agnostic? Either way, he's non-practicing.) What you have in common is that you are both acting extremely childish. Drop it. Now. ... Anyway, Bill Nye the Science Guy gave the commencement address at my college and I swear I saw Hulk Hogan at an airport. I don't know for sure if it was him, but how many enormous 6'6" men with blond mustaches do you see day to day?
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Just Finns being Finns. We are not known for our tactfulness, as a nation; quite contrary. Carry on... (I still hold that I am being wrongly accused though.)
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Bobo the King wrote:
Bisqwit wrote:
I think that in his zealousness to be politically correct, someone has forgotten to be human.
...but now your comment smacks of such un-Christian condescension that there's now plenty of shame to go around.
Whoa, hold on a sec. Where was Bisqwit being condescending? Is he not allowed to make a statement and defend himself when someone objects to him posting relevant material to the topic thread? Sorry, but all I've seen on here so far is opportunistic jabs at his faith for not living up to an ideal image of how a Christian is "supposed" to conduct themselves. To my knowledge, a Christian is simply someone who places their trust in a Higher Authority to deliver them from their sins; not someone who needs to live up to everyone's expectations to be perfect. Bisqwit, in my view, you did nothing wrong by sharing relevant topic material. You have every right to post whatever you feel contributes to a thread on here.
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Bisqwit wrote:
I wouldn't have anything against it e.g. Truncated annotated his posts with a few relevant references that help explain who that person is and what he is known for.
I figured that the Russians here would already know very well who he was, and most other people would go "wat who?" like I did. And if they wanted to find out, Google is pretty user-friendly. But OK, a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mstislav_Rostropovich In short, he was a world-class cellist, in the opinion of some the best cellist of all time. But he's also well-known for being a dissident in the Soviet Union, defending human rights. He lived in exile in the US between 1974 and 1990 because of that. I had much the same reaction as Warp to your post, by the way. It's not that talking about Christianity or religion is "banned" or anything, it's that you bring it up when it's not the topic of discussion.
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For what it's worth, i also thought Bisqwit's post was a bit inappropriate for this topic. The links should not have been included imo, and it may have been wise to not go into so much detail about who they are. But then, i also think there was no need to call him out for it the way you did, warp. It seems to me that it would have made more sense to send a pm saying you didn't think it belonged, and asked him to edit it.
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I was on the same plane as Eric Hovind. He challenged me to a debate. He's not really famous or admirable. But it's as close as I've come.
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I have never met anyone famous, but all of you had the privilege of meeting me online.
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I met Carice van Houten: a Dutch actress, probably most well known for her role in Game of Thrones (Melisandre). All other people famous to me don't even have their own English wikipedia page, so I'm not going to bother listing them. Suffice to say most are magicians.
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RachelB wrote:
But then, i also think there was no need to call him out for it the way you did, warp.
To clarify: When antd commented on Bisqwit's original post, he defended it by saying that they are famous in some circles and why. My intention was to point out that his post didn't come off as annoying because of mentioning some unknown people, but because of the religious undertones, which can feel opportunistic and irk people (which is why I mentioned that it would have been the same if someone had similarly used the opportunity to promote some other world view.) Surely he can understand how his post can give this impression. My post (and especially the followups) sounded harsher that was my intention. My mental diplomacy filter was not turned on in such a familiar environment as this.
OmnipotentEntity wrote:
I was on the same plane as Eric Hovind.
Now there's a famous person among certain groups of people... :P
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OmnipotentEntity wrote:
I was on the same plane as Eric Hovind.
My condolences. My cousin is married to Paul Molitor. I've hung out with him a few times, cool dude.
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This is why I hardly visit this forum anymore, nor did I really get involved with it in the first place; everything becomes an arguement. Why can't people just chill out and discuss things without getting into an arguement over something they'll probably forget in a week? Edit: on-topic: ive always wanted to meet a classical rock musician(s), but sadly never got to experience that feeling.
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This is why I hardly visit this forum anymore, nor did I really get involved with it in the first place; everything becomes an arguement. Why can't people just chill out and discuss things without getting into an arguement over something they'll probably forget in a week?
Going over the edge helps to figure out the edge itself (between geeks and nerds :D). It's just some people learn the lesson, and some can only stagnate in repetition. It's a very interesting place too, when you need to find out something related, or enjoy the real results.
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I went and listened to a seminar of Ari Pulkkinen today - he's the guy who made sounds & music to Angry Birds and the Trine-games for example.
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Alba wrote:
This is why I hardly visit this forum anymore, nor did I really get involved with it in the first place; everything becomes an arguement.
I love it when people exaggerate like this. EVERYTHING becomes an argument? Really?
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If you guys start arguing whether or not everything is an argument I will have to write a bunch of awful hyperbole. Don't make me do it!
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I agree.
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Some may know that I act on Japanese TV and movies. Unless you know Japanese stars you probably wouldn’t know anyone I am about to list but they are pretty famous in Japan at least. I met 宮崎あおい (Aoi Miyazaki) and Patrick Harlan (Patrick Harlan) for the filming of 蝶々さん (Miss Butterfly). She was really nice and polite on the set, while Patrick was a total dick. He even got into a fight with one of the extras. I don’t know why they were fighting; I only started listening when I heard Patrick say, “Asshole”. I later met and started dating 白咲姫香 (Himeka Shirosaki), a famous singer and creator of a fashion line of clothing for kids and teenagers. This is us at my place: And her amazing singing: Link to video She was really obsessed with Disney princesses and kept claiming she wanted to be one. Not sure what that meant. I found out that dating a celebrity can be… …different? I wasn’t allowed to use her real name (I had to use a nick name) in public when we would go out to eat etc. Sometimes she would hide her face to avoid recognition. In the end no one ever came up for her autograph or anything but that would be a major mood killer. More recently I did a shoot for a show called Miss Pilot where I got to do scenes with most of the people here. First-off it was amazing just to get to do acting at TOHO Studios inside one of the studios actually used for the filming of some Godzilla movies. I mean once you have actually been on the actual set used for some Godzilla movies and paid to do some acting there, your life is basically complete. For this show I was a pilot. For the most part I didn’t interact with the main cast, but I injured myself off-screen (cut my finger on my wings (the little wings they attach to your suit to show you are a pilot) while brushing off my suit) to which the main stars reacted in a way that just had, “Holy ouch,” written all over it. I did a shoot with 佐野元春 (Sano Motoharu) in which we both died in an airplane explosion in a TV drama called SPEC ~零~. The co-director remembered me and hired me back for the filming of the movie version (just released in theaters 2 months ago) called SPEC~結~漸ノ篇. I died again, this time with 遠藤憲一 (Endo Kenichi). He played the leader of China (he speaks Chinese and English fluently) and I played the leader of America, and, true to the Japanese stereotype of America, I was very aggressive, called some Japanese a “yellow monkey”, and he turned around and killed all the world leaders, including Endo. My bad? He was really nice and humble and he laughed at a lot of my jokes. Most recently we just finished filming a movie called 万能鑑定士Q ―モナ・リザの瞳― (Blah blah blah Q Mona Lisa Blah Blah) where I got to meet the woman of my dreams, 初音映莉子 (Eriko Hatsune). I have never been so infatuated with a celebrity before. Watching how she behaved while the cameras were off—she’s weird but in a really adorable way. Child-like but not childish. We talked a lot and I got the feeling she was a little bit into me too. She laughed at everything I said (no, not mockingly) and she was super nice. When her co-star Louis Garrel did some freak dance in which he lost his balance and nearly fell into me, and I reacted by jumping back and saying, “Whoa there,” in his embarrassment he tried to save face by saying, “Mah, he is American,” to which she reacted with a very stern, “I do not approve of this comment,” face. I spent a lot of time staring at her and she spent a lot of time staring back, and not in an uncomfortable way. At one point we were so strongly locked in gazes she didn’t notice the director calling her name until the 4th time. I definitely want to meet her again and if the chance presents itself I am definitely going to ask her out. L. Spiro
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L-Spiro wrote:
Unless you know Japanese stars you probably wouldn’t know anyone I am about to list but they are pretty famous in Japan at least.
I wouldn't say I am very knowledgeable, but I only recognized Patrick Harlan and Louis Garrel. And well, Garrel is a French actor, not Japanese, so no points to me for that. Anyway, this got me thinking, actually I know someone reasonably famous in Japan as well: Camilla. (She seems to go by only her first name in Japan.) She works as a model and actor and turns up in CMs every now and then. The most well-known show she has been in was probably Nihonjin no shiranai nihongo where she played Elene. We had common friends in Sweden and used to go to the same parties. I've met her once in Japan after that. I tried getting a google image search link in here, but no luck, so google yourself for "カミラ スウェーデン モデル" if you want to see what she looks like.
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Shigeru F'ing Miyamoto; E3 2001.
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Truncated wrote:
I tried getting a google image search link in here, but no luck, so google yourself for "カミラ スウェーデン モデル" if you want to see what she looks like.
She is signed up at the same agency as myself: http://www.f-w.co.jp/pickup/cami.html In fact they have her on their business card so technically I keep a picture of her in my wallet, heh. She is indeed getting decently famous here.
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Shigeru F'ing Miyamoto; E3 2001.
Damn, we all just got owned. L. Spiro
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Bisquit himself is famous.
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Despite being a mathematician/economist, it's amusing that I have mostly met famous athletes! But okay, on a science front, I met Nobel Prize winner Steven Chiu after my team in high school won a Science Bowl competition. He gave an absolutely fantastic speech about his life. Sadly, while he was a fantastic physicist, he was an atrocious politician whose corruption/scam with Solyndra should rightly have landed him in prison. He should have taken Einstein's advice, who was once offered the position of Israeli prime minister, but turned it down, stating that he would rather be a good scientist than a bad politician! I briefly met Noam Elkies back in high school, as well as various world-class scientists during my undegrad at Caltech (Kip Thorne is probably the most famous), but those weren't as noteworthy. In terms of sports, I have met a few professional basketball players who have mutual friends and worked out in nearby gyms. Most significant were Ryan Anderson and Aaron Afflalo. Oddly enough, I have never met Jeremy Lin, even though we went to near-by Bay Area high schools at the same time, and have a few friends in common. I have met a lot of mixed martial artists/BJJ guys; Karo Parisyan, Manny Gamburyan, Jean-Jacques Machado, Jens Pulver, Marcelo Garcia, Mac Danzig, Daniel Cormier, etc. Everyone I just mentioned was an absolute sweetheart; really polite and easy-going. Sadly, I have yet to meet my idols Gegard Mousasi or Fedor Emelianenko. :( Oh, and from chess, I have met a lot of grandmasters who probably aren't famous, as well as Garry Kasparov back in the day. Amusingly, newly-crowned world champion Magnus Carlsen was in the Bay Area recently, and one of my friends got to meet him. I didn't, and am slightly jealous of that fact. Then again, my friend is a GM, whereas I'm just a lowly Expert...