This topic is for the purpose of discussing #4194: Cooljay, xxNKxx's PSX Guilty Gear in 07:11.58

I'll provide you boys an encode ;) Edit: Ah Based N?K is doing encode, which is fine. If this does go through I call publishing. Edit 2: Issue happened for N?K providing an encode for all. I actually remember that I have this game but it was the PS2 game. I do recall that I might have this game on PS1 so I'll check in on certain things. Edit 3: Here we are: Link to video

Thanks Spikestuff cutie :D

Most fighting games TASes are really boring, that's because the fastest way to finish them is repeating the same combo over and over. Or in this case the Destroyer. I think showing more of the charge infinites, some clashes and the supers would be better than just finishing the game as fast as possible. Also you should totally show Baiken, since the requirements are really insane because Justice cheats like crazy. I mean spamming the laser super every time he gets in the yellow? Unfair.

Not bad. This is a cool fighting game, but running it for speed takes out most of the fun. I did like that the game displays special move lists before fights, but that's not enough to get this out of Vault territory. My vote is Meh. A playaround of this game, though, could be spectacular.

I've heard of these one hit kills. Anyone care to explain for the uninitiated how they work?

I find it hard to believe that the Sol fight in particular couldn't be done better. There's almost a full second of just pushing against him even after the 'pause for manipulation.'

There's almost a full second of just pushing against him even after the 'pause for manipulation.'

It's mainly because he would block everything until a certain frame and i didn't want to lose my position in any way. If i did other approaches it would be slower and leave a chance for him to get away. Making a wild goose chance that is not needed.

I find it hard to believe that the Sol fight in particular couldn't be done better.

That's the beauty of TASVideos. You don't have to find it hard to believe, the emulator and the authors' movie file are there for you. Run the movie up to the beginning of the Sol stage and find the improvement yourself if you think it can be done quicker.

I've heard of these one hit kills. Anyone care to explain for the uninitiated how they work?

These are called Destroy attacks. Who got hit by this skill will lose 2 rounds in immediately. Initiate one by pressing Punch+Kick when fighter is close to the opponent. The screen will turn red. Press Qcf+Punch+Kick and fighter will perform their special instant kill. The important: This's a move have 2 hits. The second hit can dodge anytime (attacking, getting hit, stuned), and it can't connect to any combos or hits,

It's important to note that in this initial installation of the series, Instant Kills can actually be countered. During that time when the screen is tinted red, the victim of the IK startup can do qcb,P+K to cancel out the attack and return to neutral state to continue fighting. During this red-screen, both players can mash their IK attack or defense command, and whoever inputs it more gets their desired result out of it. (Or maybe it's based on input speed. Never been entirely sure.) Obviously AI does it slightly differently, and I'd guess each opponent has a number of "counter inputs" to pass in order to successfully Instant Kill, and Testament and Justice can receive the IK initial attack but will always successfully counter it. I suppose Chipp is the same way, apparently! Also I second the motion for an inclusion of Baiken. This still had a pretty good showing of Ky's combo potential, so this is a Yes from me.

(Or maybe it's based on input speed. Never been entirely sure.)

I don't know how about with real players (didn't play this game in real life), but with AI, I was work on per frame for make sure fastest. AI don't need press button for do actions, then they don't care about speed for inputs :D

It's true, and in fact I'm surprised/impressed that you managed to have the red screen up for such an incredibly short time when performing an IK. Back when I played the game with a friend that was always the most intense full second of any match, but it's way less than that here. My childhood is a lie!

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congratulations Cooljay :D

Hello. I feel a little silly, having registered just to post this, but I adore this series and this game in particular, and felt I could add something to the conversation. (Also I kinda thought I'd already registered at some point, but apparently not.) I know playarounds are generally favored for fighting game TASes here, and I fully agree that they're more interesting to watch. Guilty Gear in particular has pretty amazing TAS potential, and a few players on Nico have already helped to realize it. Here are some playaround TASes by a Japanese player going by pifyty, to highlight the kind of things that are possible, and maybe spark some ideas for a new run that could be published here. Sol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP79wXWV0cM Ky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xErfBTeL0Ws Chipp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsgD-4FCzs Millia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRuMcYaBkk0 Each has a pretty clear goal from match to match (clash or beat every enemy attack, dizzy as many times as possible, attack from impossible angles, avoid everything, etc.), and given the... "rough" nature of the game, I feel like there's probably more that could be found if there were someone out there crazy enough to dig deeper.

Thanks Circuitous, those are pretty great videos! I think they're a little long for a great playaround (especially with a couple matches that knock Baiken really high in the air), but they show a lot of potential. My favorite was probably the Millia one, given all the planning and aiming of large hair projectiles. Also, the Ky video shows that it IS possible to land the Destroy move on Justice, though I don't know whether it would save time to get it to land in the way this video does.