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Posted: 8/22/2014 6:11 AM
Post subject: Re: TAS bot at AGDQ 2015 - Final Fantasy
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Warp
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TheAxeMan wrote:
TASbot currently can't do hard or soft resets.
Just keep it that way. No need to ruin yet another cool project.
Posted: 8/22/2014 1:31 PM
Post subject: Re: TAS bot at AGDQ 2015 - Final Fantasy
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ALAKTORN
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True wrote:
How would supporting this "ruin" my project?
Warp is against the idea of using controls that are not on a gamepad itself, ignore it.
Posted: 8/22/2014 1:48 PM
Post subject: Re: TAS bot at AGDQ 2015 - Final Fantasy
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Warp
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ALAKTORN wrote:
ignore it.
Yeah. Why respect people's opinions? It's not a question of it being on the controller. Resetting, removing discs or cartridges, power-cycling, altering the machine's RAM via external means (ie. other than by the game itself), corrupting the savedata and so on is not playing the game. In my books any run that uses any of those doesn't count as a legit completion. (Yes, I know about that one game that needs resetting to continue. No need to bring it up again. I can grant an exception with that game. If you want to smash the console with a sledgehammer and pour water on it when TASing that particular game, be my guest.)
Posted: 8/22/2014 1:54 PM
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ALAKTORN
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I was just saying not to spam the topic with those phylosophical questions, not meaning disrespect. We can stop now.
Posted: 8/22/2014 2:01 PM
Post subject: Re: TAS bot at AGDQ 2015 - Final Fantasy
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Warp wrote:
Why respect people's opinions?
How many, exactly?
Warp wrote:
In my books any run that uses any of those doesn't count as a legit completion.
Why not respect opinions of people who think otherwise?
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 8/22/2014 3:15 PM
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Don't real time speedruns for Majora's mask use resets? I fail to understand if a human can do it, why restrict a TAS or a device that can pass input to a device? Arbitration? And isn't there an X-Men game that wants/needs a soft reset?
When TAS does Quake 1, SDA will declare war. The Prince doth arrive he doth please.
Posted: 8/22/2014 4:08 PM
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Warp
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Haven't we gone through the issue of admins making personal insults in thread titles already in the past? I'm frankly getting tired of it, and I'm really tempted to start throwing insults back myself. Do we really have to go through the same shit all over again? Just stop with the personal insults, thank you.
Posted: 8/22/2014 4:17 PM
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feos
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I'm personally insulted by how you hate the truth, Warp.
Warning: When making decisions, I try to collect as much data as possible before actually deciding. I try to abstract away and see the principles behind real world events and people's opinions. I try to generalize them and turn into something clear and reusable. I hate depending on unpredictable and having to make lottery guesses. Any problem can be solved by systems thinking and acting.
Posted: 8/22/2014 4:20 PM
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Warp
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Just cut the bullshit and change it, please. I'm tired of playing this same old game again.
Posted: 8/22/2014 4:25 PM
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Posted: 8/22/2014 4:30 PM
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Posted: 8/22/2014 4:31 PM
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ForgoneMoose
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Well, let's look at the title of this topic. "Yet another" - Why yes, you have pulled this shit before. Here is just one fine example: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11543 "warp" - That's you! You are indeed the subject of this topic! :D "derail" - Starting long, inane debates about shit nobody cares about because you feel like you have to push some sort of agenda. Nobody wants to hear your obnoxious opinions on resets in a topic that has nothing to do with the rules/standards of TASing. Yep, it all checks out. I don't see any insults in the name of this fine topic, it all checks out to me.
Posted: 8/22/2014 4:41 PM
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Warp
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Well, ForgoneMoose, you can go fuck yourself. And that isn't an insult either.

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