The site referenced has since been taken down. Internet wayback machine to the rescue! You can use the links on the top right to navigate to the other pages even though the pictures are missing. I like bisqwithitler.php the best.
This is a perfect case of Poe's Law related to TASVideos. The content of that site is so over the top, it has to be satire... but is it? Would someone go to that effort (banning Bisqwit included) just for comedic gold?
Sage advice from a friend of Jim: So put your tinfoil hat back in the closet, open your eyes to the truth, and realize that the government is in fact causing austismal cancer with it's 9/11 fluoride vaccinations of your water supply.
For me, this is a very clear case of a "controlled opposition". It was probably Bisqwit himself or one of his main lackeys who set up that site for the following goals:
1) Create the illusion that people who are against TASes are dumb
2) Create a strawman to make pro-TAS arguments seem more reasonable
3) Manufacture discourse to ultimately get more visits to his page
Would someone go to that effort (banning Bisqwit included) just for comedic gold?
Good point, and the obvious answer is "no". Nobody could have taken so much effort just for the sake of comedy, nor could anybody have been so stupid as to seriously believe in the ideas perpetrated by that site. It follows the only logical conclusion that the site and its accusations are nothing but a "false flag attack" conducted by Bisqwit himself. A strategy that is quite reminiscent of the one that Hitler used to start WWII...
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The nate thread on m2k2 pales in comparison to The Truth Garden. That site had a list for all of the similarities between Bisqwit and Hitler, explicitly because we supported timeattacks.
Legion's post on page 3 titled "Da Metroid" is vital, but has been eaten by the q?u?e?s?t?i?o?n?m?a?r?k monster.
It can be fixed easily by pasting it on notepad and using the replace feature. I wonder what causes those question marks anyway...
The site referenced has since been taken down. Internet wayback machine to the rescue! You can use the links on the top right to navigate to the other pages even though the pictures are missing. I like bisqwithitler.php the best.
The links don't work anymore, did they remove them from the archive?
Well, I'm gonna go back to making fake and cheated video edits (FCVE for short) now.
Yeah, maybe TASes are "fake video edits"... fake, in the sense that they actually aren't video edits, they are input edits :P
This is a perfect case of Poe's Law related to TASVideos.
Which once again leads to seeing how some perfectly valid was deleted from Wikipedia.
Seriously, Wikipedia is doing things wrong.
I didn't quite understand what you are referring to, and it got me curious.
Poe's Law as an article doesn't exist on Wikipedia, presumably because they couldn't find any "impartial" sources on it. So it got taken down, despite being a useful and relevant concept. Because it's better to not have articles than to have them.
The thing that gets me about Wikipedia is that they have an article for every single episode of the Simpson's, and one for every single Pokémon. So there's some pretty blatant hypocrisy about their notability standards.
Pyrel - an open-source rewrite of the Angband roguelike game in Python.
Poe's Law as an article doesn't exist on Wikipedia
I assumed that Bisqwit meant that, but when I checked Wikipedia, the article was there alright, so thus I wondered what else he could have been referred to. Because this works for me just fine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
I finally had time to look at the link Truncated posted, and I agree that it's unbelievable that someone would spend their time writing that, either as a joke or actually believing it. The author never explains how we are "cheating" or what makes the videos "fake and cheated". He just keeps throwing the terms around. Also, the Bisqwit and Hitler page doesn't even include anything like a REAL similarity between the two. That site cannot be real.
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He also talks about a mysterious Japanese player who looked into Morimoto's run. Who is this mysterious player? Where did he come from? what was his name? some things we may never know.
[19:16] <scrimpy> silly portuguese
[19:16] <scrimpy> it's like spanish, only less cool
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CoolKirby wrote:
That site cannot be real.
It was only sustained by a tiny, tiny group of people who utterly hated Bisqwit. The whole charade depended heavily on everyone's faith in Reciprocal's account of what went on over here. Their community imploded in a matter of hours when the site owner openly questioned Reciprocal's response to us attempting open communications.
Yeah, it was really stupid.
Hilarious, here's some of my favorite parts (italized texts are quotes from tasvideos and the normal text is the response to that):
They are art.
"Aside from falling under the art of conning, these videos are"
lol, "art of conning"
"Although absolute perfection is ridiculously simple to attain via the video editing programs provided, it has not been achieved in any fake and cheated video thus far. Why perfect videos have not been made with a video editing program designed to allow you to cheat your way to a perfect video stirs much confusion, although the most commonly accepted solution to this is that FCVE makers are horrendous gamers"
The videos are not edited with an image manipulation program
"This is completely false, as every video editing program (re-recording emulator) used to create FCVEs is an image manipulation program; it takes images that would otherwise be unaltered, and manipulates them into a cheated video which they were not intended to be originally."
From what I read, he was annoyed because he used to make speedruns using emulators, and since TAS tools were created such emulator videos wouldn't qualify as proof anymore. He's obviously joking/trolling a bit, with Hitler and all that, but he's also serious at the same time, he's just exaggerating a bit to get his point across.
He says that TAS emulators are video editing programs. I'm not sure if it's entirely wrong, it might depend a little of what definition of "video" we have: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video
As for the button presses, although it is true that button press data is fed into a video editing program for playback, this means it is simply one of two parts of the movie; this scenario is akin to splitting any edited movie into two portions, then claiming that the movie is not edited because you need to put the two pieces together for it to work. As both parts are essentially the movie, the video is edited.
An analogy I came up with once:
Speedrunning is like playing an instrument - you have to do it all in one go, and it takes years to master.
TASing is like making music in a program - you get as much time as you want to revise the product, and when it's played back you see none of the blemishes. Theoretically you could make perfect music on your first go, but in both cases you need large amounts of knowledge coming into it to create something pleasing as the end product.
Hope it's not too bad of me to post here again almost a decade later, but hello again.
nfq wrote:
The same thing happens when we visit old places in real life, so I guess it works for places on the internet too.
As I spent so much time on the internet when I was younger I've essentially left time capsules for myself to revisit, unintentionally of course. I think it's a unique experience that our generation has access to. Some of my older posts make me ashamed, some are interesting for me to re-read, and some remind me of how interested or fixated I was on certain things.
I do visit old places in real life too and I get nostalgic but it feels like my mind is playing tricks on me in real life as memories from 10-15 years ago are unlikely to be perfectly accurate. With the internet, the memories are undisturbed and won't be changed unless the site gets closed (which has unfortunately happened to all too many of the old places I used to visit); at least, I hope the internet will never become so dystopian that anyone is would go around changing old posts. More likely that any touchy subject would just get outright banned as we've seen happen in some countries already.
It's interesting to think about. When I first made this post it was about how this site made me feel old. I made the original post at one of the low points of my life after quitting medical school which is probably why I felt this way. Now, I just enjoy re-reading what a much younger me posted and thought. It's a great way to self reflect. I've gotten my life back on track after long bouts of depression due to huge student loans from quitting med school ($100,000, now fully paid off) and I feel like I am re-discovering myself after living like a zombie the past decade or so. The main problem I had a decade ago was that I had no money and was afraid I would end up homeless so being mindlessly driven to pay-off my debts made sense, it was a matter of survival. Today the main problem I think about is that I want to be able to earn money doing something I'm passionate about instead of pursuing my current career.
I hope this forum, and others like it, survive the passage of time so I can come back here and reminisce every decade or so as I grow older and (hopefully) wiser. For some of you this forum is just a day to day hobby, for me it's a time capsule. I'm looking forward to see what worries and interests me in another decade. Hopefully any financial worry will be past me and I can worry about more important things in life.
As I spent so much time on the internet when I was younger I've essentially left time capsules for myself to revisit, unintentionally of course.
The first time I ever got access to the Internet (in the mid-90's) I was already an adult. Which means I spent my entire childhood in the pre-internet era world. (Well, if we get really technical, the internet in its modern form was developed in the mid-80's, but it did not become mainstream until the late 90's. Prior to that the world at large was essentially "pre-internet".)
Yet, today people who have been born in the internet era are already adults. Which means that they have spent their entire lives in the internet era. They don't have personal experience of the pre-internet world.
For some reason I have hard time imagining how that is like. Not having experienced the world before widespread internet, before cellphones, before easy and dirt-cheap worldwide communication access, where you can communicate in real time with someone on the other side of the world (other than by phone, costing outrageous sums of money).
As I spent so much time on the internet when I was younger I've essentially left time capsules for myself to revisit, unintentionally of course.
The first time I ever got access to the Internet (in the mid-90's) I was already an adult. Which means I spent my entire childhood in the pre-internet era world. (Well, if we get really technical, the internet in its modern form was developed in the mid-80's, but it did not become mainstream until the late 90's. Prior to that the world at large was essentially "pre-internet".)
Yet, today people who have been born in the internet era are already adults. Which means that they have spent their entire lives in the internet era. They don't have personal experience of the pre-internet world.
For some reason I have hard time imagining how that is like. Not having experienced the world before widespread internet, before cellphones, before easy and dirt-cheap worldwide communication access, where you can communicate in real time with someone on the other side of the world (other than by phone, costing outrageous sums of money).
I was fairly young but I did have pre-internet experience, although I was a preteen when Diablo 1 and Starcraft game out so I was exposed to the internet as young as reasonably possible.
It's definitely a different world today. I can't imagine being born in 2005 or something and not being around prior to social media ruling everyone's lives.
